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Old 01-22-2013, 09:50 AM  
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The 1998 Eagles vs. The 2012 Chiefs

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The 1998 Eagles vs. The 2012 Chiefs
By John Ames, FansTurn.com
Published on January 22, 2013 11:21 am in 360 News, Chiefs News


You might find yourself in the majority of Chiefs fans that are hoping and praying the Chiefs find their Quarterback (QB) of the future in this years draft. Since this new regime has taken over the watch, they have done everything possible to shoot down the idea of drafting a QB with the number 1pick in this yearís 2013 draft. Here is why I believe itís all a smoke screen.


In 1998 the Philadelphia Eagles finished the season 3-13, one of the worst years in franchise history. They started 3 different QBs that year, each with 1 win. They scored a league low 161 total points, with only 7 TD passes from all 3 QBs. Following the 1998 season the Eagles ownership cleaned house, ending Head coach Ray Rhodes 4 year tenure.


The Eagles then went out and hired a quarterbacks coach from the Green Bay Packers by the name of Andy Reid, the local media and fan base didnít like the hire very much at the time. Reid knew right away that he had a lot of work to do, and his main objective was to find a franchise QB.


On April 17th of 1999, the Philadelphia Eagles selected QB Donovan McNabb from Syracuse University with the overall #2 pick. The rest, as they say is history. Mcnabb went on to become an elite QB for the Eagles for the better part of a decade, leading his team to multiple division titles, conference championships, and eventually an appearance in Super Bowl XXXIX.


Now, lets fast forward to your 2012 Kansas City ChiefsÖ


The Chiefs finished out this year a lot like the Eagles in 1998. Playing multiple QBs, scoring just over 200 total points and had a terrible time moving the ball through the air. Finishing the season at an embarrassing 2-14. One of the worst years in Franchise history. Following the 2012 season, the Chiefs CEO: Clark Hunt cleaned house, relieving the general manager Scott *****, head coach Romeo Crennel, and nearly all of the coaching staff.


The Kansas City Chiefs immediately hired a proven Head Coach that was fired from the Philadelphia Eagles; Andy Reid. The local media and fan base called it a ďhome-run hireĒ. Reid knew right away that he had a lot of work to do, and his main objective was to find a franchise quarterback.


I feel like Iíve heard this story before,


If history serves us correctly, I believe Andy Reid; and John Dorsey WILL draft QB with the overall number 1 pick this April. The kid that I believe can and will be our QB of the future is Geno Smith, out of West Virginia, but thatís for another discussion. I donít know about you, but Iím ready for some home playoff games.


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Old 01-22-2013, 09:52 AM   #2
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going into that draft McNabb was the 10th BPA rated by ESPN.

That is for the BPA crowd...
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:58 AM   #3
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going into that draft McNabb was the 10th BPA rated by ESPN.

That is for the BPA crowd...
ESPN knows EVERYTHING!
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:02 AM   #4
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I'm not certain but didn't the Philly fans want somebody other than a QB in that draft as well?
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:06 AM   #5
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I'm not certain but didn't the Philly fans want somebody other than a QB in that draft as well?
Yes they wanted the Eagles to draft Ricky Williams and booed McNabb when they didn't draft Williams.
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:06 AM   #6
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I'm not certain but didn't the Philly fans want somebody other than a QB in that draft as well?
yeah philly didn't like that pick and boo'd big time.. of course they booo everything....
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:07 AM   #7
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:07 AM   #8
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I feel pretty confident that whoever Reid and Dorsey decide is their QB we will draft. If they get him in the second, so be it. Kaepernick was what, the seventh QB off the board?

My general opinion is that NFL coaches are 95% ****ing retarded when it comes to scouting QBs. If you know a guy has talent and he's falling - that isn't necessarily a bad OR uncommon thing.
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1. BROWNS
Tim Couch, QB, Kentucky
New coach Chris Palmer, with the future of the organization riding on his shoulders, takes the experienced-under-fire field general over the rocket-armed Akili Smith.
2. EAGLES
Donovan McNabb, QB, Syracuse
First-year coach Andy Reid faces an agonizing decision. Why McNabb over Smith? McNabb reminds him of young Brett Favre, whom Reid worked with in Green Bay.

3. BENGALS
Akili Smith, QB, Oregon
Cynics say Cincy won't pay top dollar for a quarterback, but Smith is a franchise player, and the Bengals haven't produced a star passer by way of the draft since Ken Anderson.

4. SAINTS (FROM COLTS)*
Ricky Williams, RB, Texas
Indianapolis gets an offer it can't refuse from Mike Ditka, who believes that this heavy-duty, 230-pound Heisman Trophy winner is the Saints' ticket to glory.

5. REDSKINS (FROM PANTHERS)
Champ Bailey, CB, Georgia
This rocket with high-4.3 to low-4.4 speed defends like a dream, catches passes and returns kicks. Washington gets a three-way player for the price of one.

6. RAMS
Edgerrin James, RB, Miami
Dick Vermeil rode Wilbert Montgomery's legs to a Super Bowl with 1980 Eagles, and he has been looking for a workhorse back since taking over the Rams in '97. James qualifies.

7. VIKINGS (FROM BEARS)*
Chris McAlister, CB, Arizona
Chicago, with only six picks, trades down to get more choices. Dennis Green, who lost left corner Corey Fuller to free agency, jumps at the chance to get this 4.38 speedster.

8. CARDINALS (FROM CHARGERS)
Torry Holt, WR, North Carolina State
This 4.45 burner is a narrow choice over middle linebacker Chris Claiborne. Holt is expected to be a third wideout, but so was Randy Moss for the Vikings last year.

9. LIONS
Chris Claiborne, MLB, Southern Cal
Stephen Boyd mans the middle in Detroit, but Butkus Award winner Claiborne is so gifted that he can play either outside linebacker position.

10. RAVENS
Daunte Culpepper, QB, Central Florida
Baltimore is also looking for help at wideout and cornerback, but vice president of player personnel Ozzie Newsome is intrigued with this 6' 3 1/2", 255-pound tank with a big arm.

11. BEARS (FROM VIKINGS)*
Anthony McFarland, DT, LSU
Could trade up for a quarterback. Interior line isn't area of need but getting the best on the board at his position, plus the extra picks in the trade down, isn't a bad move.

12. COLTS (FROM SAINTS)*
Jevon Kearse, OLB-DE, Florida
"Half a dozen guys look good to us," says club president Bill Polian. Kearse, a linebacker in college projected to rush the passer as a weakside end in the pros, is one of them.

13. STEELERS
David Boston, WR, Ohio State
Pittsburgh had no speed at wideout last year, and quarterback Kordell Stewart went blooey. Enter this 6' 1", 215-pounder with 4.38 speed and watch the offense take off.

14. CHIEFS
John Tait, T, Brigham Young
Finding a left tackle is a must. The 317-pound Tait gets the nod over Eastern Michigan's L.J. Shelton based on mobility and athleticism.

15. BUCCANEERS
Cade McNown, QB, UCLA
Tampa Bay isn't giving up on Trent Dilfer. It's just good drafting sense. If you can get a high-production quarterback this far down, you take him.

16. TITANS
Andy Katzenmoyer, MLB, Ohio State
There's a big argument between coach Jeff Fisher, who's intrigued by the Big Kat, and Tennessee scouts, who would rather go for defensive line help.

17. SEAHAWKS
Damien Woody, C, Boston College
Wideout Troy Edwards is the rumor, Woody is the reality. Age and injuries make 35-year-old Kevin Glover iffy and make the quick, 328-pound Woody a sensible need pick.

18. RAIDERS
L.J. Shelton, T, Eastern Michigan
Last year's first-round pick, Mo Collins, struggled at left tackle, and Oakland gave up an NFL-high 67 sacks. The quick-footed 340-pound Shelton could help.

19. GIANTS
Aaron Gibson, T, Wisconsin
Are we ready for the NFL's first 400-pounder? Gibson is only 14 pounds shy. He could play tackle, with Scott Gragg moving inside, or guard. Or both.

20. PATRIOTS
Ebenezer Ekuban, DE, North Carolina
Running back is top priority, but unless it can move way up, New England won't get a top-echelon ballcarrier. The Pats will get the pass rusher here, the runner later.

21. CARDINALS
Matt Stinchcomb, T, Georgia
A smart, tough 306-pounder. With free-agent defection of left tackle Lomas Brown, something has to be done to ensure that quarterback Jake Plummer stays healthy.

22. COWBOYS
Pat Kerney, DE, Virginia
Dallas's 1998 sack total was an anemic 34. Kerney is a 265-pounder with 4.74 speed and a nonstop motor. He's gifted rushing off the edge and technically sound.

23. BILLS
Antoine Winfield, CB, Ohio State
The only knock on this tough little hitter is his lack of size -- he's 5' 8 1/2" -- which scares people in this era of big wide receivers.

24. DOLPHINS
Rob Konrad, FB, Syracuse
"We could move up, or we could move down," Miami coach Jimmy Johnson says. Or he could keep the pick and take Konrad, who reminds him of young Daryl Johnston.

25. PACKERS
Antwan Edwards, CB, Clemson
Remember what Randy Moss did to the Pack last year? So does general manager Ron Wolf. At 6 feet, 210 pounds, Edwards can get physical with the Vikings' wonderboy.

26. JAGUARS
Lamar King, DE, Saginaw Valley State
Jacksonville needs someone on the strong side to play opposite Tony Brackens. King's pluses: 6' 3", 299 pounds and a 4.9 40. His minus: small-college competition.

27. 49ERS
Shaun King, QB, Tulane
Terrifically productive but undersized. So's Doug Flutie. If the Niners play it cute and trade down thinking they can get King later, someone will beat them to the punch.

28. PATRIOTS (FROM JETS)
Sedrick Irvin, RB, Michigan State
Kevin Faulk of LSU? Amos Zereoue of West Virginia? Both have been mentioned, but Pats prefer the bigger Irvin (223 pounds) to replace the injured Robert Edwards.

29. VIKINGS
Reggie McGrew, DT, Florida
Status of free agent Jerry Ball is uncertain. Jason Fisk is gone. The 307-pound McGrew is an ideal strongman to take pressure off John Randle, who'll return to tackle full time.

30. FALCONS
Troy Edwards, WR, Louisiana Tech
Long-ball threat Tony Martin was released. Coach Dan Reeves can't believe that Edwards (5' 9 1/2", 191 pounds, 4.5 in the 40), the third-best wideout on the board, is still there.

31. BRONCOS
Al Wilson, MLB, Tennessee
Ferocious competitor who flies at the enemy with 4.55 speed. So why does he fall this far? His size -- 6 feet, 239 pounds -- worries some. Forget it. He can play.
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:11 AM   #10
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That was an Eagles team with ZERO talent.

Reid is coming into a situation where just about half of his starting roster is either ProBowl worthy or borderline.
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:15 AM   #11
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That was an Eagles team with ZERO talent.

Reid is coming into a situation where just about half of his starting roster is either ProBowl worthy or borderline.
Exactly, all we need is a QB. Forget the "BPA" take the best QB on the board in the 1st and 3rd round..

That Eagles team the following year only won 5 games, it wasnt until Mcnabbs 2nd year that they were good. But still a quick turn-around for such a bad team.
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Jeez, Dr. Z...

Were you consulting Gray's Sports Almanac?
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going into that draft McNabb was the 10th BPA rated by ESPN.

That is for the BPA crowd...
ESPN probably has their first QB rated much further down the line than that this year.
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Jeez, Dr. Z...

Were you consulting Gray's Sports Almanac?
I'm sorry that you are either a) Too young to remember Paul Zimmerman or b) Too ****ing stupid to google his name.
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Akili Smith, QB, Oregon
Cynics say Cincy won't pay top dollar for a quarterback, but Smith is a franchise player, and the Bengals haven't produced a star passer by way of the draft since Ken Anderson.


Anyone who knew anything about Smith during college knew he would bust. The guy was as dumb as a box of rocks.
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