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Old 01-22-2013, 11:33 AM  
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Albert just called 610. Wants to stay in KC

Agent is talking to Dorsey. Does not want to play guard. Health is good. For what its worth.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:25 PM   #856
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The poll wasn't my idea and I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything.

It sure will be nice when you're gone though.
God danm! He will never stop whoring until he is gone! I was on the fence about keeping him, but this just sealed my vote. He is just like Bob in the movie "What about Bob". "HE NEVER GOES AWAY!"
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:36 PM   #857
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I have given him his credit...all along I have said if we already had a qb he would be a good pick in the top five. But, he is from a spread system and lacks strength to handle the stronger rushers. He isn't a sure thing and IMO is about the same prospect Albert was coming out...maybe a hair better.
Jockel is great, don't get me wrong. But a tackle is not a NEED right now. This first pick thing is a bitch this year. I WANT A QB! preferably not Barkley. Is Geno #1 worthy? I really hope so. If not, do we trade down a few? This will be a long couple of months. For the first time in a LONG while, I do have faith in our FO.
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Old 01-27-2013, 10:40 PM   #858
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Pure and simple...if a qb is worth the 20th pick in the draft, he is worth the top pick...shit, it's starting to look like if you are worth a top 40 pick that you are worth a top five pick.

Rodgers, Kaepernick and Flacco are great examples of this.

When you need a qb, there is no such thing as a reach...you get the best guy you can and do everything you can to help him succeed.
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:02 AM   #859
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Kyle Orton is a great example of how a qb can change a team. Average at best qb probably takes this team to the playoffs in 2011 had he played more games.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:47 AM   #860
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Alex Smith also can't finish drives and is terrible in the red zone at getting 6. At least he was last year.

I just don't want the guy. He's an average QB, that's a big upgrade for us and all but I'd rather just ****ing draft a guy for crying out loud.
I agree with this. If we draft a QB this year he may not be able to do what Alex Smith could do for the team this year, but in the coming years he should develop and become better than any option we could have.

People forget that continuity has a ton to do with success in football, not only from the coaching standpoint, but your signal caller with that coaching staff. We need to get a guy in that hasn't peaked yet and can grow with the system our new FO is establishing. Waiting a year puts everything on hold.
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:13 AM   #861
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Pure and simple...if a qb is worth the 20th pick in the draft, he is worth the top pick...shit, it's starting to look like if you are worth a top 40 pick that you are worth a top five pick.

Rodgers, Kaepernick and Flacco are great examples of this.

When you need a qb, there is no such thing as a reach...you get the best guy you can and do everything you can to help him succeed.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:09 AM   #862
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Haha, just saw this over at the Steelers section of SBNation in a mock draft.

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Kansas City Chiefs - Geno Smith, quarterback, West Virginia - Smith is not the best player available here and its not that close but if the Chiefs take Luke Joeckel, the only other player who makes any sense here, their GM will eventually be fired. Brandon Albert is a top 10 left tackle and moving him to right tackle would just be a beyond stupid move.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:19 AM   #863
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Haha, just saw this over at the Steelers section of SBNation in a mock draft.
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Kansas City Chiefs - Geno Smith, quarterback, West Virginia - Smith is not the best player available here and its not that close but if the Chiefs take Luke Joeckel, the only other player who makes any sense here, their GM will eventually be fired. Brandon Albert is a top 10 left tackle and moving him to right tackle would just be a beyond stupid move.
Common sense among these "scouts" this year is like a breath of fresh air. Thanks for posting.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:04 AM   #864
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Pure and simple...if a qb is worth the 20th pick in the draft, he is worth the top pick...shit, it's starting to look like if you are worth a top 40 pick that you are worth a top five pick.

Rodgers, Kaepernick and Flacco are great examples of this.

When you need a qb, there is no such thing as a reach...you get the best guy you can and do everything you can to help him succeed.
I understand this and it is somewhat correct and somewhat wrong. It is correct mainly because we are desperate. If a team is not desperate it is not correct at all.

You list players that have been successful. There is a huge list of players that this attitude would not work for.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:23 AM   #865
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Pure and simple...if a qb is worth the 20th pick in the draft, he is worth the top pick...shit, it's starting to look like if you are worth a top 40 pick that you are worth a top five pick.

Rodgers, Kaepernick and Flacco are great examples of this.

When you need a qb, there is no such thing as a reach...you get the best guy you can and do everything you can to help him succeed.
JaMarcuss Russel, Jake Locker, Vince Young, Tim Tebow and Matt Lenert told me you must pick THE RIGHT QB top 40.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:33 AM   #866
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JaMarcuss Russel, Jake Locker, Vince Young, Tim Tebow and Matt Lenert told me you must pick THE RIGHT QB top 40.
Players at every position bust. Over the last few years, qbs bust far less than other positions. Especially DL.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:48 AM   #867
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JaMarcuss Russel, Jake Locker, Vince Young, Tim Tebow and Matt Lenert told me you must pick THE RIGHT QB top 40.
Really? Here I was hoping we'd pick the wrong QB up. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:50 AM   #868
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Just trying to say you dont draft a player just because. No matter how bad the need. Teams get into trouble over reaching. Initially, ill trust whatever decision Reid/Dorsey make.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:53 AM   #869
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You are correct DeBerg. Doesn't mean we have to like it but it is the reality how franchises look at it. Good franchises don't knee jerk and reach even if it is a desperate need. If they don't deem there to be a elite QB to take at #1, they won't reach over other more highly rated prospects.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:58 AM   #870
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Just trying to say you dont draft a player just because. No matter how bad the need. Teams get into trouble over reaching. Initially, ill trust whatever decision Reid/Dorsey make.
Odds are at least one QB in this draft will be a good NFL player (if not great). Since we have the first pick we have the luxury of picking the QB we feel is that player. There is no reach.

I can understand the reach statement if we were drafting 10th. Let's say there are three QB's off the board. You don't just draft a QB just because in that situation because you might believe none of them are worth it. Someone is worth the number 1 pick. It's the FO's job to figure out who that is and draft them. No matter where they're expected to go (within reason).
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