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Old 05-22-2013, 06:49 PM  
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Obama will address killing more Americans than Boston terrorist tomorrow

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Old 05-22-2013, 07:14 PM   #2
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These were Americans who went overseas, joined al-Queda, and were killed when we fired at AQ targets. So, how much does this bother you?
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:55 PM   #3
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These were Americans who went overseas, joined al-Queda, and were killed when we fired at AQ targets. So, how much does this bother you?
That is a very valid question~
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:55 PM   #4
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These were Americans who went overseas, joined al-Queda, and were killed when we fired at AQ targets. So, how much does this bother you?
For one, it trashed the Constitution, since we're not legally in a state of war.
For two, it trashed the Constitution, because it violates due process.

The WoT is a wholesale trashing of the Constitution. Obama is Bush on steroids.
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:56 PM   #5
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These were Americans who went overseas, joined al-Queda, and were killed when we fired at AQ targets. So, how much does this bother you?
what bothers me is BO and our govt funds AQ
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:57 PM   #6
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For one, it trashed the Constitution, since we're not legally in a state of war.
For two, it trashed the Constitution, because it violates due process.

The WoT is a wholesale trashing of the Constitution. Obama is Bush on steroids.
Bad guys who wish us harm dead...don't see the downside myself~
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:58 PM   #7
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Bad guys who wish us harm dead...don't see the downside myself~
It has nothing to do with how you or anyone personally feels. It has to do with what the Constitution says. It protects all of us...not just people you don't like for any reason.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:01 PM   #8
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It has nothing to do with how you or anyone personally feels. It has to do with what the Constitution says. It protects all of us...not just people you don't like for any reason.
Too late to to enter the debate...we disagree. I will revisit this later~
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:02 PM   #9
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Judge Napolitano on Obama's claim he can kill US citizens abroad if....


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"It says 'any informed high-level U.S. government official can strip an American of his or her constitutional protections and order the killing of that American if the person is overseas, if it's difficult to arrest that person," said Napolitano, explaining that the memo does not clearly define what "imminent danger" to the United States means.

"This is the power claimed by kings and tyrants. This is about as un-American a power as one could imagine," he said.
It's a very bad and dangerous precedent. Another usurpation of the Constitution.

Read more: http://foxnewsinsider.com/2013/02/06...#ixzz2U4qIq7VE
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:05 PM   #10
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For one, it trashed the Constitution, since we're not legally in a state of war.
For two, it trashed the Constitution, because it violates due process.

The WoT is a wholesale trashing of the Constitution. Obama is Bush on steroids.
Not all military action requires a declaration of war.
Congress specifically authorized military action against AQ.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:07 PM   #11
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Napolitano on Cavuto says Obama’s policy of using drones to kill Americans without a trial is “Stalinistic.”
“The Constitution couldn’t be clearer. If the government wants the life, the liberty or the property of a person, they have to do it through due process, which means a jury trial. They can’t just execute. That’s Stalinistic.“~ Judge Napolitano
Napolitano also said if Bush would have had this policy Barack Obama would have been the first one to criticize it. [Yep!]

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013...inistic-video/
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Not all military action requires a declaration of war.
Congress specifically authorized military action against AQ.
It still violates the Constitution.

As for military action, that's for a short term action—not a prolonged war.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:13 PM   #13
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These were Americans who went overseas, joined al-Queda, and were killed when we fired at AQ targets. So, how much does this bother you?
Not much at all.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:20 PM   #14
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Not much at all.
Shame on you. For all our sakes you should be concerned.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:23 PM   #15
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Shame on you. For all our sakes you should be concerned.
I understand your view. My definition of traitor differs from yours. Debate is healthy but this one seems clear to me. If you take up arms against our servicemen our country you are the enemy. ****ing period.
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