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Old 01-23-2013, 05:49 PM  
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Jets exploring trade options for Revis?

Jets owner Woody Johnson to explore trading Darrelle Revis
By Jason La Canfora | CBS Sports NFL Insider
January 23, 2013 7:28 pm ET

The New York Jets, fresh off an exhaustive hunt for new general manager John Idzik, will explore options to deal star corner Darrelle Revis this offseason, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.

Revis, whose contract voids after the 2014 season, is set to earn $6 million in 2013 (between salary and bonuses), and owner Woody Johnson has strong reservations about the ability to extend Revis's deal, the sources said. Johnson has expressed his desire to attempt to land value for Revis now, rather than risk losing him as an unrestricted free agent a year from now, most likely seeking as much draft-pick compensation for him as possible.

The Jets are very much in transition mode, they have cap issues moving forward and are trying to embark on a rebuilding processafter firing former long-time general manager Mike Tannenbaum. Revis, who missed almost all of last season after suffering a torn ACL, engaged in a long holdout in 2010 that resulted in a contract extension that was more of a Band-Aid than anything else.

Revis signed a seven-year deal then that voids to a four-year pact, thus making him an unrestricted free agent after the 2013 season. The deal also precludes him being hit with the franchise tag or any other such mechanism. Johnson has made it very clear he would like to pursue a means to reap rewards for Revis now, sources said, and it is likely to be an immediate part of Idzik's initial job duties.

Revis is considered by many to be the best defensive player in the game. And with pass rusher Mario Williams earning$60 million guaranteedfrom Buffalo a year ago, Johnson understands how financially restrictive it would be to retain him. His team desperately needs young, cheap, impact players to help reposition the team for the future, with 2013 a year of transition.

Revis is the only real trading chip that he has. Knee injury or not, there would be no shortage of teams interested in securing his services and no shortage of rebuilding teams sitting on massive cap space in 2013. The Jets are also likely to be hard-pressed to retain free agents like tight end Dustin Keller, running back Shonn Greene and defensive tackle Mike DeVito, though they will make a push to retain DeVito, the sources said.

Getting Revis signed to an extension would be a possibility to trying to remedy this situation, but the sources said Johnson has established his desire to move him if he can secure fair value in exchange.

Dealing Revis would incur a $9 million cap hit due to some option-bonus prorations involved in the contract -- thus Revis would count an additional $3 million against the cap than he is currently scheduled to -- but the Jets could navigate that relatively easily according to sources familiar with their cap situation, via a restructuring or by releasing a veteran. The team is using 2013 as a year for cap and budgetary housecleaning, to get situated for the future. It stands to reason that come 2014, both Revis and head coach Rex Ryan, are gone.


Any interest?
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Old 01-23-2013, 06:25 PM   #31
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Why would he not return to be elite? In this day and age, guys are coming back to be just as good with a new ACL as they were before.


And to be honest, I don't give a **** about the "cap". It can be manipulated either way to make room for guys. Also, it's not my money, so ****ing spend it.

So I'll take the best CB in the league, and draft one later on who can be developed by Emmit Thomas. Hell, you can get a top CB in next years class if you want.
Dorsey also went out and got Charles Woodson, so it's possible. I wouldn't be mad as long as we don't move our first rounder.
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Old 01-23-2013, 06:26 PM   #32
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And who gives a damn if he wants elite money. If he's an elite player, I'd probably want elite money too.


The guy is 28 or will be when the season starts. 3 or 4 years of elite play from Revis, youve got time to find your next CB.
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Dorsey also went out and got Charles Woodson, so it's possible. I wouldn't be mad as long as we don't move our first rounder.
Well, no they can't have the first rounder.


But CB is a huge need. So if you gave a 2nd this year and a 2nd or 3rd next year, you'd be filling a need with BPA so to speak. Yeah, he'd cost more.
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Do Not Want. Revis won't be the same next year. Can't think of an elite CB that ever came off ACL reconstruction surgery and continued being an elite corner right afterwards.
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Especially if you are taking a CB in the 2nd this year, I'd really think about it.


Hell if they would go for it, I'd call the Jets the day after the draft and offer them picks from next years draft. LOL.
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Do Not Want. Revis won't be the same next year. Can't think of an elite CB that ever came off ACL reconstruction surgery and continued being an elite corner right afterwards.
Same with RB right?


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Why would he not return to be elite? In this day and age, guys are coming back to be just as good with a new ACL as they were before.


And to be honest, I don't give a **** about the "cap". It can be manipulated either way to make room for guys. Also, it's not my money, so ****ing spend it.

So I'll take the best CB in the league, and draft one later on who can be developed by Emmit Thomas. Hell, you can get a top CB in next years class if you want.
As others have mentioned, his age has to factor in at least a little. Given the cost, trade for him wouldn't be worth it unless you sign him to a long-term contract. Considering his talent, it would probably be at least 4 or 5 years long, meaning that you're stuck with an expensive corner for at least a few years after he has potentially passed his prime.

Regarding "not giving a **** about the cap", I think you're oversimplifying the idea of moving money and players around. Signing a guy like Revis to an expensive-long term contract doesn't just mean "moving some guys around"; it could mean not resigning someone like Albert or Bowe, or missing out on a highly sought-after free agent.

I agree with those saying that he's a good player and will probably play well for whatever team he's on next year, but I just don't think that it's worth what is sure to be a very, very high cost.
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Well, no they can't have the first rounder.


But CB is a huge need. So if you gave a 2nd this year and a 2nd or 3rd next year, you'd be filling a need with BPA so to speak. Yeah, he'd cost more.
Another factor into this is that Sutton comes from the Jets...
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Same with RB right?


Corner's have to backpeddle and twist more than RB's.
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As others have mentioned, his age has to factor in at least a little. Given the cost, trade for him wouldn't be worth it unless you sign him to a long-term contract. Considering his talent, it would probably be at least 4 or 5 years long, meaning that you're stuck with an expensive corner for at least a few years after he has passed his prime.

Regarding "not giving a **** about the cap", I think you're oversimplifying the idea of moving money and players around. Signing a guy like Revis to an expensive-long term contract doesn't just mean "moving some guys around"; it could mean not resigning someone like Albert or Bowe, or missing out on a highly sought-after free agent.

I agree with those saying that he's a good player and will probably play well for whatever team he's on next year, but I just don't think that it's worth what is sure to be a very, very high cost.
You mean like the unquestioned best CB in the NFL?


Length of contracts aren't as important, it's all about guaranteed money. We've paid top dollar to shitstains like Cassel and Jackson, yet some of you aren't ok with paying top dollar for hte best CB in the league?
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Corner's have to backpeddle and twist more than RB's.
The ACL is all about cutting ability. Which it seems RB's do the most of.


Therefor, if a RB can come back like Charles, AP, etc, I'm really not worried about Revis.
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I'm not saying in year 2 after the surgery that Revis could'nt return to form, i just don't think he will next year.
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Unless you trade him and sign a friendly extension at the same time, what's the point? In effect we would trade a second rounder for one year of Revis on a rebuilding team and the right to negotiate for a year.

The guy is obviously going to go to whoever pays him the most, so either wait a year and open up the pocketbook (and devote $140 million to CBs) or let someone else trade assets for him.

It's the type of deal fans love and that gets GMs fired: short-sighted band-aids.
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You mean like the unquestioned best CB in the NFL?


Length of contracts aren't as important, it's all about guaranteed money. We've paid top dollar to shitstains like Cassel and Jackson, yet some of you aren't ok with paying top dollar for hte best CB in the league?
You mean the guy who isn't a free agent?

Also, you can't possibly believe that a player like Revis would agree to a contract that didn't include large sums of guaranteed money.
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