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***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why weíre not more emotional,Ē Matheny said in his office after Sundayís game. ďThey say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. Thatís what got us here. This isnít the time to change it.Ē

Itís hard to argue with the managerís assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.


Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.


The Cardinalsí veterans still havenít forgotten. They still arenít over it. Itís why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliakís urgings to smile and put on a happier face.


Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.



The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:



* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.



The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.


The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.


The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.


The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.



The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
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Old 06-09-2013, 01:12 PM   #1531
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Old 06-09-2013, 01:40 PM   #1532
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It was just brought up on BBTN, but both Schilling and Sutcliffe said they'd take Posey over Molina.

I'm obviously a homer, but I'm taking Molina 5 times out of 5. Previously, the offensive difference was so wide you could easily make a case. But now, with Molina's offensive skill as well as the fact that he's the best defensive catcher, I don't know.
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It was just brought up on BBTN, but both Schilling and Sutcliffe said they'd take Posey over Molina.

I'm obviously a homer, but I'm taking Molina 5 times out of 5. Previously, the offensive difference was so wide you could easily make a case. But now, with Molina's offensive skill as well as the fact that he's the best defensive catcher, I don't know.
It's a close call and possibly too close to call. Hard to argue with the all-around game or leadership of either player.
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It's a close call and possibly too close to call. Hard to argue with the all-around game or leadership of either player.
Probably so.


But, IMO, which of course being a Cardinals fan I would feel this way, but I don't think Posey is the defensive player Molina is. Not just catching, but the way he shuts down the running game and handles the staff.
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It was just brought up on BBTN, but both Schilling and Sutcliffe said they'd take Posey over Molina.

I'm obviously a homer, but I'm taking Molina 5 times out of 5. Previously, the offensive difference was so wide you could easily make a case. But now, with Molina's offensive skill as well as the fact that he's the best defensive catcher, I don't know.
Molina also handles a staff significantly better. It's not close. If I were choosing players this year, there isn't a single player in baseball I'd take over Yadier Molina. Even the advanced metrics can't do him adequate justice, as there aren't many tools out there to measure how well a pitcher handles a staff.

This isn't exactly new. Even though the Cardinals are the second most successful franchise in baseball history, many of their players are often overlooked.

A great comparison is to look at the media falling over themselves to fellate Puig after five games, then looks at what Pujols did his first 24 games as a Cardinal:

.370/.431/.739

8HR, 27 RBI

While playing four positions across the diamond.
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The only thing Posey can do better than Molina is the long ball,thats it. I know this might sound biased being a Cards fan but hes nowhere near the defensive catcher Yadi is.
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He only missed his spot by about four inches there, and through two innings he'd thrown nine balls to 24 strikes.
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