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Old 01-25-2013, 05:27 PM  
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***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why weíre not more emotional,Ē Matheny said in his office after Sundayís game. ďThey say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. Thatís what got us here. This isnít the time to change it.Ē

Itís hard to argue with the managerís assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.


Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.


The Cardinalsí veterans still havenít forgotten. They still arenít over it. Itís why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliakís urgings to smile and put on a happier face.


Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.



The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:



* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.



The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.


The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.


The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.


The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.



The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
ó Bernie

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Old 07-13-2013, 08:29 PM   #2761
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LOL at Little Pedro just squat ****ing Castro and Rizzo.
Can you get into town for a game this year?
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Old 07-13-2013, 08:29 PM   #2762
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Damn, I see where the comparison comes from.


I'd like it if he were a touch bigger though.
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Old 07-13-2013, 08:30 PM   #2763
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And FWIW, a guy my dads boss knows who works for the Cardinals, said that it's thought in the organization that Martinez has the best stuff in the system outside of Wainwright.
That has never been a question, and Martinez's stuff blows Waino's out of the water.

Martinez throws an easy 97 with movement and has two other pitches that profile as plus offerings.

There isn't a prospect in baseball with better raw stuff than Little Pedro.

If he were

A) Left-handed

or

B) 6'4

He'd be considered the best pitching prospect since Kershaw.
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Can you get into town for a game this year?
Wife and I are taking the girls to a game in September for Twin-to-Twin Awareness day at the ballpark. I think it's the week after Labor Day.
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You guys think they end up rolling with Waino, Miller, Martinez, Wacha at any point this year, with Lynn and Westbrook in there at times?
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Wife and I are taking the girls to a game in September for Twin-to-Twin Awareness day at the ballpark. I think it's the week after Labor Day.
Let me know when you'll be in town. Would love to hook up and shoot the shit.
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You guys think they end up rolling with Waino, Miller, Martinez, Wacha at any point this year, with Lynn and Westbrook in there at times?
I doubt Wacha starts for the team again this year unless Westbrook blows a tire or the team has its playoff position sewn up.

Can't really imagine they take Lynn out of the rotation, although those are the four I'd most want to see in a playoff series. Power arms are a must in October. Ball doesn't fly as far, so you can get away with gas more than in summer months.
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I think our pitching will come around and/or we have young guys that can fill in there for that.

But, Kozma/Descalso at SS just isn't good enough.


Thats what I'd be looking for before the dline, but there isn't shit out there.
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Let me know when you'll be in town. Would love to hook up and shoot the shit.
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I doubt Wacha starts for the team again this year unless Westbrook blows a tire or the team has its playoff position sewn up.

Can't really imagine they take Lynn out of the rotation, although those are the four I'd most want to see in a playoff series. Power arms are a must in October. Ball doesn't fly as far, so you can get away with gas more than in summer months.
I think this is something that gets overlooked.

Our bullpen is set up to be pretty nasty in October with all those flamethrowers.

Miller is just a little out of sync right now, but I think that turns around. Or atleast hope.

I don't really want Wacha back up, but I'd roll with Waino, Miller, Martinez and a mix of Lynn and Westbrook in a series in October.

The wildcard too is if Rosenthal can make his way into the rotation next year.

Jesus.
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I think this is something that gets overlooked.

Our bullpen is set up to be pretty nasty in October with all those flamethrowers.

Miller is just a little out of sync right now, but I think that turns around. Or atleast hope.

I don't really want Wacha back up, but I'd roll with Waino, Miller, Martinez and a mix of Lynn and Westbrook in a series in October.

The wildcard too is if Rosenthal can make his way into the rotation next year.

Jesus.
Your dream rotation (IMO)

Waino
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Wacha
Siegrist/Rosenthal
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I love Siegrist in the pen, but being a lefty and doing what he does, absolutely.


THats pretty nasty right there.


**** me. Having a guy with Wacha's stuff as your 5th starter? Jesus.
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