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Old 01-25-2013, 04:27 PM  
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***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why weíre not more emotional,Ē Matheny said in his office after Sundayís game. ďThey say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. Thatís what got us here. This isnít the time to change it.Ē

Itís hard to argue with the managerís assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.


Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.


The Cardinalsí veterans still havenít forgotten. They still arenít over it. Itís why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliakís urgings to smile and put on a happier face.


Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.



The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:



* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.



The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.


The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.


The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.


The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.



The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:23 PM   #3061
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You don't keep up on baseball do you? Welllll you might want to read the OP.
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:26 PM   #3062
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You don't keep up on baseball do you? Welllll you might want to read the OP.
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You don't keep up on baseball do you? Welllll you might want to read the OP.
Whiff.

Much like what happens when hitters face Jim Johnson.
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Old 07-21-2013, 08:51 PM   #3066
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Old 07-21-2013, 09:19 PM   #3067
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IMO the plan to bring back Carp as a starter is a pipe dream. They should condition him as long relief and spot starter. He was pretty strong through 2 innings then hit a wall in his last start. You can't expect a guy who hasn't pitched in the last 2 seasons to come out and pitch more than 2 innings of strong ball. Work him up to it. He's not going to be able to come out every fifth day and throw even five innings. As a starter he will burn the bullpen. He could be a starter in the postseason. You expect to burn your staff there.
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IMO the plan to bring back Carp as a starter is a pipe dream. They should condition him as long relief and spot starter. He was pretty strong through 2 innings then hit a wall in his last start. You can't expect a guy who hasn't pitched in the last 2 seasons to come out and pitch more than 2 innings of strong ball. Work him up to it. He's not going to be able to come out every fifth day and throw even five innings. As a starter he will burn the bullpen. He could be a starter in the postseason. You expect to burn your staff there.
Yeah, we and the Cardinals want to believe but that banged up body of Carp cant just be willed by Carp to do what he wants it to do.

But his presence on the team especially in the playoffs if he can give us an inning or two has a value way beyond a couple of innings of pitching.
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Old 07-22-2013, 06:25 PM   #3070
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You know its funny that Baseball tonight said the same thing last night. His time is almost up and they should just put Rosenthal in there before the meltdown.

Only one blown save all year and noone thinks its going to last. He is going off the Boggs/Franklin/Izzy mental disaster cliff soon.
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You know its funny that Baseball tonight said the same thing last night. His time is almost up and they should just put Rosenthal in there before the meltdown.

Only one blown save all year and noone thinks its going to last. He is going off the Boggs/Franklin/Izzy mental disaster cliff soon.
He's blown two. While he has been shaky at times, he's done absolutely nothing to warrant being moved out of the closer role yet.
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Mozeliak has to have that idea in the back of his mind. Mujica doesn't have to know he's on notice, but he should be in Mo's mind.
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He's blown two. While he has been shaky at times, he's done absolutely nothing to warrant being moved out of the closer role yet.
I'm not advocating immediately pulling him off the closer job. But, in no way should he be given as much rope to hang himself and the Cardinals as they granted Boggs and Franklin. The "closer" role is probably the most performance based job on the team. There is no 0-27 slump space to work yourself out of as a "closer".
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Regarding Carp: He has a full month, essentially a full spring training. Give him time to see if he can build the strength up in his arm. If he can't, then try him as a reliever. But don't panic yet.
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