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***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why weíre not more emotional,Ē Matheny said in his office after Sundayís game. ďThey say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. Thatís what got us here. This isnít the time to change it.Ē

Itís hard to argue with the managerís assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.


Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.


The Cardinalsí veterans still havenít forgotten. They still arenít over it. Itís why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliakís urgings to smile and put on a happier face.


Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.



The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:



* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.



The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.


The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.


The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.


The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.



The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:57 PM   #4141
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Matheny is so ****ing stupid and Carpenter just bailed his dumb shit ass out.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:57 PM   #4142
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What did he do now?
Kozma walked w/ one out. Kelly has given up seven hits and a gopher ball and he left him in to bunt, thus giving the team no wiggle room. It worked out b/c Carpenter, Beltran, and Holliday hit B2B2B doubles, but it was still a dumbshit decision. He should have called on a pinch hitter in that situation.

It's additionally troubling because he's running Kelly back out there.
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Thats what I figured you were talking about.

If Kelly could improve his breaking pitch to an average level, I think his fastball and change would be good enough pitches.
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Thats what I figured you were talking about.

If Kelly could improve his breaking pitch to an average level, I think his fastball and change would be good enough pitches.
His change actually rates as slightly above average, which surprises. Me. You're right that the slider needs definite improvement, though.

Right now he's somewhat like Wacha, save that his fastball is better but his changeup isn't nearly as good. The difference is that Wacha's curve will probably end up being a solid pitch, which is why he'll likely settle in as a fringe #2/solid #3.
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the ball is just not carrying out at Bush.
It's worse this year than in years past. I've heard some speculation that it may be related to the construction of the Ballpark Village across the street.
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His change actually rates as slightly above average, which surprises. Me. You're right that the slider needs definite improvement, though.

Right now he's somewhat like Wacha, save that his fastball is better but his changeup isn't nearly as good. The difference is that Wacha's curve will probably end up being a solid pitch, which is why he'll likely settle in as a fringe #2/solid #3.
Yep.

I'm not insinuating that he'll ever be more than he will be, IMO, he's a ceiling #3 SP'er.

Wacha's ceiling might be a little higher than that, like you said, but I'm becoming a bigger and bigger Joe Kelly fan with each start he makes.
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It's worse this year than in years past. I've heard some speculation that it may be related to the construction of the Ballpark Village across the street.
Really?

I don't really know how/why that would be but who knows.
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