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Old 01-25-2013, 05:27 PM  
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***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.


Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.


The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.


Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.



The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:



* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.



The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.


The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.


The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.


The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.



The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

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Old 09-26-2013, 11:47 AM   #4756
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They lose tonight and one more my scenario above becomes a reality?
Atlanta wins the tiebreaker because they won the season series. We have to finish with a better record.

If they go 2-2 to finish, we need to go 2-1. If they go 3-1, we have to sweep. If they go 1-3 to finish we need to go 1-2. If they lose out, we're golden. If they win out, they get it.
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Old 09-26-2013, 11:56 AM   #4757
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Atlanta wins the tiebreaker because they won the season series. We have to finish with a better record.

If they go 2-2 to finish, we need to go 2-1. If they go 3-1, we have to sweep. If they go 1-3 to finish we need to go 1-2. If they lose out, we're golden. If they win out, they get it.
I wouldn't blow Waino on Sunday to get HFA against the Braves. We will need him twice in the division series.
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Old 09-26-2013, 11:59 AM   #4758
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I wouldn't blow Waino on Sunday to get HFA against the Braves. We will need him twice in the division series.
I agree with that.
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Old 09-26-2013, 12:00 PM   #4759
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I wouldn't blow Waino on Sunday to get HFA against the Braves. We will need him twice in the division series.
But you would every other day of the week. Such a great fan
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But you would every other day of the week. Such a great fan
I don't understand your comment.
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Wainwright could pitch Saturday and still have 4 days off before game 1.
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I don't want Wainwright pitching until the playoffs. He needs to be fully rested.
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Over-resting pitchers is just as bad as under-resting them. Wainwright would be on 9 days rest. Pitchers held out that long are generally very wild, especially in the early innings.
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He's like that when he's overused. I'd rather take my chances with rested.
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THIS!

Or just have him pitch a couple of innnings on Saturday. Without Waino being Waino, we are looking at a quick exit.
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Adam Wainwright will start Saturday against the Cubs.

This will lineup him up to start Game 1 of the NLDS next Thursday. Wainwright is 18-9 with a 3.01 ERA this season

I like this move; let's go for home field advantage!
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Well, they goddamn well better keep him on a short leash. If he's throwing his 120th pitch in the 8th inning I'll go Frigidaire on Matheny.

Also, does anybody know if the radio feed is easy to get for these games, or do you have to pay extra? I'll get stuck with the ****ing Cub announcers for this, and I'd rather not listen to them whine about sucking for a 100 years while the Cardinals are celebrating a division win. Would be better to delay the game enough to match the radio broadcast over the internet and turn the sound off on the TV.
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I just got an update on my phone that says Craig has a lisfranc injury.

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