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***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.


Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.


The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.


Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.



The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:



* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.



The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.


The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.


The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.


The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.



The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

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Old 06-06-2013, 08:40 PM   #1441
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So, who are we going to have to target before the deadline as another pen arm?
You know who would be great value and has been a damned good reliever the last three years (and is locked up from 2013-15 + and option year)?

Glen Perkins.

He's a lefty, but he's absolutely killing it as the Twins' closer, and he consistently hits 95-6 with a wipeout slider.
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Any word on when we can expect Westbrook back?
Threw 60 pitches in a AA rehab start last night. He said that he may be ready to go after just one more.

I'd send Wacha back down until roster expansion and let Lyons stay in as the lefty starter.
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Why the **** was Mujica warming up? We have a 7 run lead. Wait till it gets at least a 4 run lead before warming him up. Cincy tomorrow.... come on man
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Why the **** was Mujica warming up? We have a 7 run lead. Wait till it gets at least a 4 run lead before warming him up. Cincy tomorrow.... come on man
In the 9th it's not about the size of the lead but where the tying run exists. When we brought Mujica in the the tying run was on deck. It was the right move. What sucks is that the move had to be made, and for that you can blame Butler and Man Ass.
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I'd send Wacha back down until roster expansion
that aint happening. Mo said he was here to stay if they called him up. Sending him to the minors would be considered a demotion. No need to demote the guy. Lets see if he can locate better.
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Here's the scouting report on Gonzales:

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/cardinal...o-gonzales-lhp

Prototypical soft-tossing lefty, but he has a brilliant changeup and good command of the fastball. Also throws a cutter into RHB. Probably projects as a #4 starter. Not a sexy pick, but a solid one.

Kaminsky was the Kyle Lohse pick. HS lefty who is small, and, like Gonzales, projects as a back of the rotation type starter. However, he supposedly has an absolutely wicked curveball.
Kaminsky lit the showcase scene on fire this summer, racking up strikeouts with an advanced repertoire from the left side. His fastball sits in the low 90s and can reach 94, but the exciting part is his curveball, which has legitimate plus-plus potential. He throws the hammer in the upper 70s and low 80s and generates excellent bite with 11-to-5 action. The pitch was unhittable this summer, and Kaminsky also has some feel for a change-up.
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In the 9th it's not about the size of the lead but where the tying run exists. When we brought Mujica in the the tying run was on deck. It was the right move. What sucks is that the move had to be made, and for that you can blame Butler and Man Ass.
He had Mujica warming up with a 7 run lead and 1 out and 2 on. Either he knew Butler wouldn't get it done or suspected. And if that is the case with a 7 run lead, then WTF is he still on the team? Get another arm up here.
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that aint happening. Mo said he was here to stay if they called him up. Sending him to the minors would be considered a demotion. No need to demote the guy. Lets see if he can locate better.
It's not about what will happen, but what should happen. Wacha is a two pitch pitcher right now, and we can't afford to have him learning to throw a CB at the ML level.

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He had Mujica warming up with a 7 run lead and 1 out and 2 on. Either he knew Butler wouldn't get it done or suspected. And if that is the case with a 7 run lead, then WTF is he still on the team? Get another arm up here.
It wouldn't surprise me if he did, but I can't blame Matheny for being proactive when the bullpen gave up six runs in 2.1 IP outside of Mujica.
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It's not about what will happen, but what should happen. Wacha is a two pitch pitcher right now, and we can't afford to have him learning to throw a CB at the ML level.
It's not going to happen even if it should. Lyons goes to the pen. Wacha will be allowed to sink or swim.
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It wouldn't surprise me if he did, but I can't blame Matheny for being proactive when the bullpen gave up six runs in 2.1 IP outside of Mujica.
Then Butler has no place on this team at this moment.
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It's not going to happen even if it should. Lyons goes to the pen. Wacha will be allowed to sink or swim.
Then Butler has no place on this team at this moment.
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If heard both about him. I don't know.
Yeah, same here. Wasn't sure if anyone had heard any different.
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If heard both about him. I don't know.
We need pen guys right now. We have plenty of starter candidates. We need to get rosenthal out of the pen.
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