This year we could face our greatest security challenge/threat since WWII.

[BigRedChief]

If you are paying attention, it's going to happen.

Take your pick from below. They are just waiting to blow up. We will not be able to keep all these threats/challenges from exploding.

• Iran on the verge of nuclear weapon. We or Israel attacks. Shit can spiral out of control quick. Iran attacks the USA in the continental USA.
• North Korea has nuclear weapons. They have paid unemployed Russian ballistic engineers to help them. They are now making progress. The kid needs to prove to the military he is as loco as they are. Shit can spiral out of control quick.
• Pakistan has a coup or political instability and terrorists get a hold of one of their nuclear weapons. Shit can spiral out of control quick.
• Syria draws us into a renewal of the cold war. Shit can spiral out of control quick.
• The Saudi or Jordanian Kings get thrown out by their people.
• Egypt turns to civil war and the hard liners win and disavow the Israeli/Egyptian treaty. Shit can spiral out of control quick.

[BigRedChief]

Public info as of an hour ago leaked by the Yemen government. Speculation that it's Iran supplying Al-Qaeda in Yemen. Iran supplying Al-Qaeda..... that can't be good for peace.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/28...zed-off-yemen/


Ship bearing illegal arms seized off Yemen

Yemeni authorities working with the U.S. Navy intercepted a ship carrying a "substantial" cache of "illegal arms" such as surface-to-air missiles, potent explosives and rocket-propelled grenades, a U.S. official and Yemen's government said Monday.


The incident took place in Yemeni territorial waters in the Arabian Sea last Wednesday, according to a statement issued five days later from Yemen's embassy in Washington.


The crew of the USS Farragut, a Naval destroyer, was working with Yemeni authorities when they spotted the vessel, said an official in the Obama administration. The ship had several flags onboard, but no reliable documentation showing where it came from, the official added Monday.
After the ship was intercepted, Yemeni coast guard officers boarded it and "found a large cache of illegal arms," according to the Yemeni embassy's statement, which was also posted on the website of the Arabian country's state-run SABA news agency.


The firepower included anti-aircraft missiles, C4 military-grade explosive, ammunition and bomb-making equipment such as circuits, remote triggers and various handheld explosives, the Yemeni statement said.
There were eight Yemeni crew members aboard the vessel.
The Obama administration official described the effort as a joint operation, and said U.S. forces joined their Yemeni counterparts in boarding the suspect boat.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

criticizing some dude over a video is not the President practicing a foreign policy of appeasement.

Try again. Oh wait.... you can't because this President is not an appeaser and your Beck/Limbaugh bubble can't change that fact.

And just providing one example and then stating that makes all the rest of the examples the same is A MORNIC argument. You are better.

One example is all it takes. I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about that.

We'll all be better off when our appeaser-in-chief is an ex-appeaser-in-chief even if his devoted followers like yourself don't recognize that.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Public info as of an hour ago leaked by the Yemen government. Speculation that it's Iran supplying Al-Qaeda in Yemen. Iran supplying Al-Qaeda..... that can't be good for peace.

That can't be right. There's no way Shia will work with Sunnis. Isn't that what we've been told? Can't happen.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Ok, so it was enraged Muslims being blamed for the attacks, just like I said.

I didn't ever say you were wrong. I'm not wrong either though.

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

And so, in this particular location, it turns out the attackers were not enraged by the video, but were enraged by something else? And this is the big scandal?

The false suggestion that they were (enraged by the video) is certainly a part of it.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by patteeu

That can't be right. There's no way Shia will work with Sunnis. Isn't that what we've been told? Can't happen.

Enemy of my enemy is my friend. Same damn reason we are "friends" with Pakistan, Yemen and Afghanistan governments etc etc

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Dude, its not a contest.

irony on steroids..

[Iowanian]

I was passing information to this site in 2004-2005 that Iran was supplying weapons, explosives, IED and Shape charges in Iraq to use against our people.


This isn't new information and it's not a surprise.

Iran is a used Israeli tampon.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Enemy of my enemy is my friend. Same damn reason we are "friends" with Pakistan, Yemen and Afghanistan governments etc etc

Yeah, I wasn't serious. That's what critics of the Bush administration used to say when news of Iran support of al Qaeda in Iraq and Afghanistan was reported. And also what they said about Saddam (in the sense that he wasn't an Islamist and he supposedly wouldn't work with Islamists).

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Not always.

[RNR]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Enemy of my enemy is my friend. Same damn reason we are "friends" with Pakistan, Yemen and Afghanistan governments etc etc

You forgot Saudi Arabia while listing countries we turn a blind eye to~

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Yeah, I wasn't serious. That's what critics of the Bush administration used to say when news of Iran support of al Qaeda in Iraq and Afghanistan was reported.

And this is a dilemma for myself personally. The evidence is piling up that we can't ignore that Iran is funding AL-QAaeda is not even trying to be sly about it anymore.

I'm in favor of killing every member of Al-Qaeda until they decide to quit trying to kill Americans. I think we should attack them wherever they are hiding. Pakistan, take em out with drones. Yemen, use drones and SO. If they are hiding in any country and that country won't do anything about it, we go in and take them out.

What about providing arms? Aid and comfort to our enemies? If Iran is going to brazenly help Al-Qaeda do we just let it go? Going to war with Iran will be long and bloody and the war will come to the homeland. Is it worth it?

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

And this is a dilemma for myself personally. The evidence is piling up that we can't ignore that Iran is funding AL-QAaeda is not even trying to be sly about it anymore.

I'm in favor of killing every member of Al-Qaeda until they decide to quit trying to kill Americans. I think we should attack them wherever they are hiding. Pakistan, take em out with drones. Yemen, use drones and SO. If they are hiding in any country and that country won't do anything about it, we go in and take them out.

What about providing arms? Aid and comfort to our enemies? If Iran is going to brazenly help Al-Qaeda do we just let it go? Going to war with Iran will be long and bloody and the war will come to the homeland. Is it worth it?

We should have done something about it when we first found it happening in Iraq and Afghanistan and when we had significant forces on either side of them. Of course, we had a third front to fight here at home with the way many democrats (and some isolationist Republicans) were working full time to undermine the war effort.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by patteeu

We should have done something about it when we first found it happening in Iraq and Afghanistan and when we had significant forces on either side of them. Of course, we had a third front to fight here at home with the way many democrats (and some isolationist Republicans) were working full time to undermine the war effort.

okay now lets put this together in case some on here are not paying attention........ public info

• Iran and North Korea has all kinds of agreements, including a “civilian scientific and technological cooperation”.
• Iran is publicly helping North Korea with ballistic technology
• Iran put a monkey in space this week. Why would you do that? You really think they are interested in space exploration?
• North Korea has 8-10 low yield nuclear weapons
• Russia uses red fuming nitric acid in their ballistic missiles. North Korea is using it. How did they get it? Learn how to use it? It wasn't from the Russians directly. Has to have come from Iran.

[KILLER_CLOWN]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

okay now lets put this together in case some on here are not paying attention........ public info

• Iran and North Korea has all kinds of agreements, including a “civilian scientific and technological cooperation”.
• Iran is publicly helping North Korea with ballistic technology
• Iran put a monkey in space this week. Why would you do that? You really think they are interested in space exploration?
• North Korea has 8-10 low yield nuclear weapons
• Russia uses red fuming nitric acid in their ballistic missiles. North Korea is using it. How did they get it? Learn how to use it? It wasn't from the Russians directly. Has to have come from Iran.

So would you like to invade?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

So would you like to invade?

No, war will cost thousands of innocent lives and could spiral out of control into a wider war that no one can "win".

That being said, there is no way we can allow Iran to posses nuclear weapons unless they throw the mullahs out. And we can't allow North Korea to put one of their nuclear warheads on a ballistic missile that could reach USA.

But, all of our options suck royal ass. What needs to happen is China sit on dumbass North Korea and tell them to chill. It's not in their best interests either. And the people of Iran need to throw the mullahs out.