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Old 01-28-2013, 08:26 AM  
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Alex Smith to ask for release

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If no draft picks are involved, does that change your opinion on bringing him in?

Draft pick, Smith, Stanzi(?) as your QB's in camp.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:26 AM   #361
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Your post is a major contradiction.

When Smith is released, The NY Jets, Bills and Jaguars will most definitely be interested. Teams like the Chiefs and Titans will likely be interested. It wouldn't be a shock to see the Eagles and even the Vikings interested.

With Smith, Peterson, Harvin and Rudolph, the Vikings would be dangerous.
My post wasn't a contradiction, your argument contradicts your standpoint by pointing out that my statement was right.

You just named off 7/32 teams in the NFL. That isn't many, now is it?
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:27 AM   #362
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:30 AM   #363
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My post wasn't a contradiction, your argument contradicts your standpoint by pointing out that my statement was right.

You just named off 7/32 teams in the NFL. That isn't many, now is it?


How many starting QB jobs are available each year, Genious?

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I didn't say he would sign with us. I said if we could sign him AS A BACKUP, I'm on board.

While Smith could start for 20 teams or more in this league, he's not going to get many offers to come in and start.
Dumb****ingassery at its finest.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:38 AM   #364
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How many starting QB jobs are available each year, Genious?



Dumb****ingassery at its finest.


My god, you are so stupid. Even if there are 13 positions available for starting QB in this league this year, which never happens, he's going to get 3, maybe 4 offers. "interest" is one thing, I could make 32 teams seem as if they have "interest" on twitter. I'm talking fly in, sit down, have lunch, discuss the game, type of interest.

He's going to get very few, here's why. The Niners aren't stupid, they're going to push hard to get a draft pick out of Smith, even if its a 5th, 6th, or 7th rounder. They have a month and a half to do this, they won't just cut him until the last second possible. It works for a PR standpoint as the team "looks" like they are helping him find a home, in reality, they are being greedy with their former first round guy. Nextly, everyone and their mother is going to believe that Harbaugh had a lot more to do with Smith's success than Smith did. Teams don't want to have a guy come in who was ONLY successful under a QB guy like Harbaugh, they want to see someone who could win games regardless of who was the HC or OC, Smith couldn't do that. Because of this, teams are going to have their staff in place before they go after a QB and there's going to be a long, lengthy courtship behind the process. Some teams who are on the fence with this will knowingly pass him up because they know this is going to be quite the process unless they go in guns blazing.

So, while we might hear about 17 teams having interest, we'll only hear about 2-3 teams actually taking a shot with him.

Kind of reminiscent of Kansas City and Andy Reid this off season. Tons of vacancies and a ton of "interest" out there, but when it came down to it, there were two teams in the race and we went in guns blazing.

If smith were smart, he'd consider taking a backup role on a team that is going to take a rookie in the first round, he's chance to "come back" is going to be greater there than anywhere else (aside from the 3 or 4 starting positions he might actually get offered).
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:39 AM   #365
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My god, you are so stupid. Even if there are 13 positions available for starting QB in this league this year, which never happens, he's going to get 3, maybe 4 offers. "interest" is one thing, I could make 32 teams seem as if they have "interest" on twitter. I'm talking fly in, sit down, have lunch, discuss the game, type of interest.

He's going to get very few, here's why. The Niners aren't stupid, they're going to push hard to get a draft pick out of Smith, even if its a 5th, 6th, or 7th rounder. They have a month and a half to do this, they won't just cut him until the last second possible. It works for a PR standpoint as the team "looks" like they are helping him find a home, in reality, they are being greedy with their former first round guy. Nextly, everyone and their mother is going to believe that Harbaugh had a lot more to do with Smith's success than Smith did. Teams don't want to have a guy come in who was ONLY successful under a QB guy like Harbaugh, they want to see someone who could win games regardless of who was the HC or OC, Smith couldn't do that. Because of this, teams are going to have their staff in place before they go after a QB and there's going to be a long, lengthy courtship behind the process. Some teams who are on the fence with this will knowingly pass him up because they know this is going to be quite the process unless they go in guns blazing.

So, while we might hear about 17 teams having interest, we'll only hear about 2-3 teams actually taking a shot with him.

Kind of reminiscent of Kansas City and Andy Reid this off season. Tons of vacancies and a ton of "interest" out there, but when it came down to it, there were two teams in the race and we went in guns blazing.

If smith were smart, he'd consider taking a backup role on a team that is going to take a rookie in the first round, he's chance to "come back" is going to be greater there than anywhere else (aside from the 3 or 4 starting positions he might actually get offered).
Dumb.

Just like every other post you've made.

Actually, ****ING dumb.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:40 AM   #366
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:40 AM   #367
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Weeden is older than Alex Smith.
Yes but Smith has been starting for 8 years in the NFL and has 8 years of NFL wear and tear which makes him older in terms of his body being owned all these years while Weeden just got here and is much fresher. He is an example of a "young" 29 year old. Smith is as old as they come.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:40 AM   #368
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Dumb.

Just like every other post you've made.

Actually, ****ING dumb.
Care to explain why? Or do you not like the fact that I disagree with your "expert" statements and dice them up with real, tangible logic?
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:45 AM   #369
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Care to explain why? Or do you not like the fact that I disagree with your "expert" statements and dice them up with real, tangible logic?
It's already BEEN explained, BlackBob:

If Smith stays with the 49ers, he's paid $8.5 million dollars. They need to lock up Goldson, amongst other players, so they're not going to pay Smith 8% of their cap to be a backup.

When he hits the market, an eight year veteran with excellent leadership skills will be sought after. Whether it's Buffalo, NY Jets, Tennessee, KC, Philly, Arizona, etc., he will choose where he lands.



You mother****ing dumbass. I'm absolutely SICK of explaining shit to dummies like you.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:47 AM   #370
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Yes but Smith has been starting for 8 years in the NFL and has 8 years of NFL wear and tear which makes him older in terms of his body being owned all these years while Weeden just got here and is much fresher. He is an example of a "young" 29 year old. Smith is as old as they come.
Weeden is also awful. And he doesn't exactly have time to get better.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:50 AM   #371
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Weeden is also awful. And he doesn't exactly have time to get better.
That's right.

Society has decided he'll die on his 30th birthday, anyway.

BTW, no QB ever has won a Super Bowl past age 30.

No one at all.
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Old 01-29-2013, 12:53 AM   #372
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It's already BEEN explained, BlackBob:

If Smith stays with the 49ers, he's paid $8.5 million dollars. They need to lock up Goldson, amongst other players, so they're not going to pay Smith 8% of their cap to be a backup.

When he hits the market, an eight year veteran with excellent leadership skills will be sought after. Whether it's Buffalo, NY Jets, Tennessee, KC, Philly, Arizona, etc., he will choose where he lands.



You mother****ing dumbass. I'm absolutely SICK of explaining shit to dummies like you.
You must be a closet Alex Smith fan if you think he's a solid veteran with excellent leadership without question marks to his name thanks to Harbaugh. Before Harbaugh was here, people were questioning whether Alex Smith could even be a backup in the NFL, now he's a certified starter in the league, no questions asked?

I'm actually the one getting sick of having to explain logic to you koolaid sipping morons.

If the entire league thinks Harbaugh had more to do with Smith's success in the last two seasons, teams will not jump all over Smith to have him on their roster. The niners know they have until Mid March to deal Smith and they will work towards that, or they will release him. Right now, the Niners have full control of the situation because they are the ones who are going to lose from this deal. They are just trying to minimize how little they truly lose. Smith isn't going to gain much because its basically a 90% guarantee that Smith cannot duplicate his success without Harbaugh, and teams know this. Thus, teams aren't going to jump all over him as a starter.

Trust me, there's going to be 15 teams with interest in him, but only a FEW and I mean FEW teams will consider starting him, despite the fact that he COULD start for 2/3rds of the teams in the NFL.

I'm not sure why you are having such a hard time understand that concept, but you need to do less talking and more reading. Perhaps obtain a "GM for Dummies" book and flip to chapter 7 "Knowing when not to chase Quality Backup QB's to start for your team". There's an interesting segment there referencing the Chiefs, I think you'll like it. Has great pictures.
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That's right.

Society has decided he'll die on his 30th birthday, anyway.

BTW, no QB ever has won a Super Bowl past age 30.

No one at all.
I fail to see how winning a Super Bowl, and getting better, are mutually inclusive.

Weeden is no Kurt Warner.
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That's right.

Society has decided he'll die on his 30th birthday, anyway.

BTW, no QB ever has won a Super Bowl past age 30.

No one at all.
And every Super Bowl winning QB is White, except ONE, just ONE.

Does this mean we should decide not to draft Geno?
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I fail to see how winning a Super Bowl, and getting better, are mutually inclusive.

Weeden is no Kurt Warner.
Weeden is junk, Big 12 QBs since the Mid 90's have been nothing but junk in the NFL, with few exceptions really.
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