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Old 01-29-2013, 05:58 AM  
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Chris Weinke (IMG Academy) Talks with Danny Parkins about upcoming QB class.

http://www.610sports.com/topic/play_...udioId=6212845

Pretty good stuff in here guys. Sorry if Q.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:17 PM   #151
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Blaming Geno for what he is or isn't doing is a bit off-base I think. He's not making any decisions in a bubble, and I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with his level of confidence. He's paying people to advise him on what to do, so when he doesn't go to the Senior Bowl, or does/doesn't throw at the combine, it's because somebody who does this kind of thing for a living is telling him it's the right thing to do.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:24 PM   #152
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everyone complains they want a qb that has the "IT" factor.. I agree i want a qb that has the IT factor and is not afraid to throw the ball no matter who he's throwing too. The guy that has the IT factor is going to go out there and throw the ****ing ball to prove he's the man. Don't care about other top QB's not throwing it. Those were different years and we weren't in position to take those guys, or we just plain passed on taking them. If geno is the guy that everyone says he is and has the IT factor i want him to prove it.
What sort of child-like thinking is this? Awful analysis. Whether he throws at the combine has nothing to do with his "IT" factor. Geno has three years of starting game tape you can go watch. He doesn't need to throw in shorts at the combine to prove anything.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:25 PM   #153
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Are scouting departments now run by 12 yr old girls?



Given how much of a wildcard this draft class is, that bothers me and it doesn't matter to me how many QBs have chosen not to throw before him.
Yeah, but is it REALLY? I don't think so. I just think that LAST year was a freak occurrence so it makes THIS year seem like a 'weak' QB class. I think Geno would be the 3rd QB taken last year without a doubt, and I'd bet Wilson would go before Tannehill too, maybe-or at least damned close.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:30 PM   #154
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What sort of child-like thinking is this? Awful analysis. Whether he throws at the combine has nothing to do with his "IT" factor. Geno has three years of starting game tape you can go watch. He doesn't need to throw in shorts at the combine to prove anything.
I don't think it's child like at all. I think it's fair that me and others i'm sure want our future QB to walk out wherever it is and take control and sling the ball. I think the whole "he can't help himself only hurt himself" is BS. I want any potential pick to go out there and ****ing prove it with the most damn confidence i've ever seen. I know thats what i would do. I don't care if your a QB, LT, LB, CB you go out there and you ****ing prove it with a chip on your shoulder. You don't sit back and play a prissy girl cause you might hurt your draft stock. I want to see the improved footwork, his release, and how quick he can adjust and throw to NFL receivers running NFL routes. EVERY other top prospect at there position will be there doing their drills unless injured. The QB shouldn't be an excuse
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:35 PM   #155
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I don't think it's child like at all. I think it's fair that me and others i'm sure want our future QB to walk out wherever it is and take control and sling the ball. I think the whole "he can't help himself only hurt himself" is BS. I want any potential pick to go out there and ****ing prove it with the most damn confidence i've ever seen. I know thats what i would do. I don't care if your a QB, LT, LB, CB you go out there and you ****ing prove it with a chip on your shoulder. You don't sit back and play a prissy girl cause you might hurt your draft stock. I want to see the improved footwork, his release, and how quick he can adjust and throw to NFL receivers running NFL routes. EVERY other top prospect at there position will be there doing their drills unless injured. The QB shouldn't be an excuse
Lots of players will opt out of lots of events. Andrew Luck, RGIII and Ryan Tannehill didn't didn't throw at the combine, just last year for example. However, I think Geno will throw at the combine. Two of IMG academy clients did last year - Russell Wilson and Kirk Cousins.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:42 PM   #156
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Lots of players will opt out of lots of events. Andrew Luck, RGIII and Ryan Tannehill didn't didn't throw at the combine, just last year for example. However, I think Geno will throw at the combine. Two of IMG academy clients did last year - Russell Wilson and Kirk Cousins.
Good i hope he does throw. I'm not on the geno wagon like i've said before but if he is even in play for the pick then i want to see everything he has. And if he is the pick i'm behind him 100%. Just for record though i'm not on the LT train either though.

Ya i know most top prospects don't throw but i think it's stupid, go out there and show what you got. I don't think it goes against you at all unless you have some flaws in your footwork/motion/arm strength. Don't think scouts or teams care if you don't place the ball perfect on a WR you met 10 minutes before. I just want to see his improvements and his throws/velocity to nfl caliber recievers running NFL route tree.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:47 PM   #157
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He threw every route in the route tree in the Baylor game about three times over, IIRC. I don't see what him throwing in shorts is going to prove.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:48 PM   #158
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He threw every route in the route tree in the Baylor game about three times over, IIRC. I don't see what him throwing in shorts is going to prove.
Now now, no need to muddy up this discussion with facts.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:54 PM   #159
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again i want to see what he's been working on. I'm sure he has done the route tree but i want to see it with improved footwork and velocity
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:58 PM   #160
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I sometimes feel like you don't read much.

I've spoken to my reasons several times and so far the best response you or anyone else seems inclined to give is "well other guys don't do it" as though that's some sort of substantive retort.

I. do. not. give. a. shit. if. past. quarterbacks. haven't. thrown.

I've now said it 4 times, is it clear enough yet? Past quarterbacks weren't coming on the heels of the Luck/RGIII draft and having to prove their mettle in a fairly bunched QB class (that is regarded as a QB poor draft as it is).

Geno is facing a set of circumstances that are relatively unique this year and he's going to do nothing more than a single pro day to not only separate himself from his QB peers, but guys like Joeckel, Moore, etc...; that's a massive error in judgment.
he has 3 years of tape showing him throwing to many targets against varying competition...but you think he should go out in shorts to "prove he can still do it and that its repeatable."

Sorry, I disagree and professional agents disagree, as well.

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Blaming Geno for what he is or isn't doing is a bit off-base I think. He's not making any decisions in a bubble, and I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with his level of confidence. He's paying people to advise him on what to do, so when he doesn't go to the Senior Bowl, or does/doesn't throw at the combine, it's because somebody who does this kind of thing for a living is telling him it's the right thing to do.
took the words out of my mouth.

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He threw every route in the route tree in the Baylor game about three times over, IIRC. I don't see what him throwing in shorts is going to prove.
so did you.
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Old 01-29-2013, 07:58 PM   #161
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He threw every route in the route tree in the Baylor game about three times over, IIRC. I don't see what him throwing in shorts is going to prove.
Well, doing it against Baylor was about like wearing shorts.


He didn't do it against Syracuse. Or Kstate.
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Just because he's being told not to do it, doesn't make it the right decision.
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Now now, no need to muddy up this discussion with facts.
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I might be inclined to retract my top ten comment and push it back to top 15 as it sits...with work on his lower body, there is no reason to think he can't jump up one group and be in the op ten because I don't think there is a big difference between his arm and Rodgers'.

Show me te guys on that list that CLEARLY have a stronger arm than Geno.

I don't think there are more than maybe 5 more that I didn't highlight.
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i have yet to see him make an aaron rogers throw. Even in all the gifs and videos you guys post i haven't seen a rocket arm like rodgers. He's got a strong arm but it's nowhere near rodgers. Maybe with footwork he can come close but i still don't think he'll have that strong of an arm as rodgers or the elites in the NFL
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