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Old 01-29-2013, 06:58 AM  
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Chris Weinke (IMG Academy) Talks with Danny Parkins about upcoming QB class.

http://www.610sports.com/topic/play_...udioId=6212845

Pretty good stuff in here guys. Sorry if Q.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:00 PM   #211
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To an opposing player.

I'm pretty sick of hearing about Cutler. If he didn't have an elite arm, he wouldn't even be a starter in the league.
Well, thats getting a little apples to oranges.


We aren't talking about accuracy. We are talking about arm strength.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:01 PM   #212
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Again, guys, I'm not trying to sling shit at Geno. I'm a big fan. I'm just having a discussion. We haven't had one of those around in a while where there wasn't yelling and gnashing off teeth and mothers being ****ed.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:06 PM   #213
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Not throwing at combine? Link?
The missing link, anyway.

We are just discussing the merits on how each of us would react to him not throwing...if that turns out to be the case.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:06 PM   #214
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This is from a little earlier in the year, but still good stuff...

Comparing RG3 and Geno
http://www.optimumscouting.com/draft...t-griffin.html

In differentiating these two prospects, it’s clear that Geno Smith is following Robert Griffin III’s footsteps in becoming the next hot prospect and potential top 5 overall draft choice. Their production, physical build, arm talent, accuracy, and explosive supporting casts are remarkably similar, but the intriguing aspect of this comparison, is how much further developed Geno Smith appears to be. Not the Olympic hurdler that Griffin was, or possessing the same 4.4 speed, Geno Smith has become the player he is today, through polished throwing mechanics, precise footwork, and feel for the game.

So in a sense, the choice of which quarterback is better than the other ultimately comes down to what you value more –high floor or high ceiling. Robert Griffin III’s combination of deep passing ability and elite athletic attributes paint a stark contrast to Geno Smith’s calculated approach and highly accurate arm. To me, Geno Smith is every bit, worthy of the top 5 pick that RG3 warranted, especially for teams in need of a franchise quarterback.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:09 PM   #215
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Sure.


But running around saying its in his best interest not to do it, simply because previous guys didn't or he is being advised not to doesn't mean it isn't a questionable decision.


It may work out, it may not.
Nobody is saying it's in his best interest not to do it.

I've said all along that its possible, and even likely, that he is BEING ADVISED its in his best interest not to do it.

And the fact that guys have skipped it before without consequence certainly suggests that if he decides to skip it, he will be just fine.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:09 PM   #216
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Again, guys, I'm not trying to sling shit at Geno. I'm a big fan. I'm just having a discussion. We haven't had one of those around in a while where there wasn't yelling and gnashing off teeth and mothers being ****ed.
Totally.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:12 PM   #217
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It's so nice to not have Blackbob shitting on discussions like this one, anymore.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:13 PM   #218
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Nobody is saying it's in his best interest not to do it.

I've said all along that its possible, and even likely, that he is BEING ADVISED its in his best interest not to do it.

And the fact that guys have skipped it before without consequence certainly suggests that if he decides to skip it, he will be just fine.
Yes, but this situation is a little different. Normally, when a QB skips it, it's because he's the head and shoulders QB of that class. Based on what we are being told, at this point, Geno isn't considered to be that.


Like I said, maybe what we are being told is wrong, maybe what Geno is being told is wrong. I'd think his agents have a better idea of what teams are thinking than some internet mock draft guys do, but at this point we just don't know.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:13 PM   #219
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hey DJ have you studied much on the other QB's? mainly barkley? your thoughts on barkley? he's probably my front runner for QB but thats just me. I think his arm strength is under estimated as he throws alot of touch passes. Seen him rifle them in there when needed. He's at IMG aswell isn't he?
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:15 PM   #220
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Geno's arm is quite a bit stronger than Barkley's.
i've seen everything that's been posted, like i've said i haven't watched all his games like some have but i have yet to see geno make a throw barkley can't. I'm not bashing geno i'm just saying i dont think his arm is much above barkley's. i think barkley has a under estimated arm for sure. If you can show me otherwise i'm open to seeing a throw geno has made that barkley can't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U1dIfiKrQk

If you watch just from like 12 minutes on he has a number of throws that are above average arm strength and on par with geno's that i've seen. If you watch the whole video you'll see him flip the ball down off his back foot for 40yrds just like i've seen geno do. Now matt's footwork is near perfect and i still think he can get a little stronger in his arm. But very good possibility once geno fixes his mechanical issue he will have a stronger arm for sure.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:16 PM   #221
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Barkley doesn't have a noodle arm, but he's a guy that I think has pretty much hit his ceiling in terms of physical abilities. He can't tweek his footwork etc as much.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:16 PM   #222
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:18 PM   #223
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:19 PM   #224
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i've seen everything that's been posted, like i've said i haven't watched all his games like some have but i have yet to see geno make a throw barkley can't. I'm not bashing geno i'm just saying i dont think his arm is much above barkley's. i think barkley has a under estimated arm for sure. If you can show me otherwise i'm open to seeing a throw geno has made that barkley can't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U1dIfiKrQk

If you watch just from like 12 minutes on he has a number of throws that are above average arm strength and on par with geno's that i've seen. If you watch the whole video you'll see him flip the ball down off his back foot for 40yrds just like i've seen geno do. Now matt's footwork is near perfect and i still think he can get a little stronger in his arm. But very good possibility once geno fixes his mechanical issue he will have a stronger arm for sure.
Well, to be honest, you answered your own question. Barkley is pretty much polished to the point that what you are seeing now is the ceiling. He doesn't have the arm strength.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:20 PM   #225
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Well, to be honest, you answered your own question. Barkley is pretty much polished to the point that what you are seeing now is the ceiling. He doesn't have the arm strength.
Basically this. his arm isn't as strong as genos.
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