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Old 01-29-2013, 06:58 AM  
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Chris Weinke (IMG Academy) Talks with Danny Parkins about upcoming QB class.

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Old 01-31-2013, 10:32 AM   #361
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By compressing the passing game vertically, you increase his completion percentage but you BARELY affect his overall interception percentage.

Furthermore, by compressing it SO much that he can actually complete some passes, you neuter the offense to the point they can't even get a first down.

You'd be better off to chuck it deep more often and see if you could get a PI penalty. At the very least you're stretching the field and decompressing your running game and if he throws a pick, it's basically the same as punting.
The problem is teams didn't start defending the long ball at all because of his poor passing percentages. He constantly couldn't punish teams for stacking the box due to his lack of a vertical pass. They constantly dared him to pass over top and he couldn't do it.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:34 AM   #362
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I understand what you are saying, in theory, but you are saying that the defense stacked the box because we didn't pass the ball long. That's not true. Teams stacked the box because he couldn't complete a pass that far.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:54 AM   #363
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I understand what you are saying, in theory, but you are saying that the defense stacked the box because we didn't pass the ball long. That's not true. Teams stacked the box because he couldn't complete a pass that far.
No, that's not necessarily what I'm saying. I'm talking about probabilities.

While throwing it short decreases somewhat the chances of something BAD happening, when you have a QB like Cassel, it also doesn't increase the chances of something GOOD happening.

And if teams are stacking the box, that improves the probabilities on the long pass. At the very least, you catch the DBs off-guard and they have to hold or PI...
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:07 AM
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:14 AM   #364
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No, that's not necessarily what I'm saying. I'm talking about probabilities.

While throwing it short decreases somewhat the chances of something BAD happening, when you have a QB like Cassel, it also doesn't increase the chances of something GOOD happening.

And if teams are stacking the box, that improves the probabilities on the long pass. At the very least, you catch the DBs off-guard and they have to hold or PI...
I think the probabilities show that throwing it far means you have less of a chance to complete a pass and just as much or slightly more of a chance of getting picked.

We may have to agree to disagree here, brotha.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:18 AM   #365
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I think the probabilities show that throwing it far means you have less of a chance to complete a pass and just as much or slightly more of a chance of getting picked.

We may have to agree to disagree here, brotha.
A complete pass isn't necessarily a positive - that should be evident from simply watching the games. You still have to get the ball beyond the yard marker...
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:21 AM   #366
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Those numbers are misleading if you really break it down:

1-10 yards make up 46% of his pass attempts at a 66% completion rate. He was picked off in this area on 4% of his attempts.
So he's an extremely timid passer.

And when you consider in his completion percentage he's just dog$#it...
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A complete pass isn't necessarily a positive - that should be evident from simply watching the games. You still have to get the ball beyond the yard marker...
I understand that. But if you take into account that if your chucking the ball down-field with an extremely inaccurate passer all together, when you decrease the chance for a completion by going for a longer throw, the 10 yards is harder to get when you only have two attempts, instead of 3, to gain them.
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So he's an extremely timid passer.

And when you consider in his completion percentage he's just dog$#it...
I'm struggling to find another QB in the NFL that completed less than 70% of his passes BEHIND THE LOS.
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I understand that. But if you take into account that if your chucking the ball down-field with an extremely inaccurate passer all together, when you decrease the chance for a completion by going for a longer throw, the 10 yards is harder to get when you only have two attempts, instead of 3, to gain them.
You have to factor in the fact that current rules create a situation where PI is called about 1/3 of the time. That's an automatic first down and potentially a HUGE play that, with said QB, you can't get ANY OTHER WAY.
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I'm struggling to find another QB in the NFL that completed less than 70% of his passes BEHIND THE LOS.
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I'm struggling to find another QB in the NFL that completed less than 70% of his passes BEHIND THE LOS.
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You have to factor in the fact that current rules create a situation where PI is called about 1/3 of the time. That's an automatic first down and potentially a HUGE play that, with said QB, you can't get ANY OTHER WAY.
I wouldn't want to game plan on an intangible like that because it becomes a 50/50 shot of who gets called for PI
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He didn't complete a whole lot of passes anywhere...
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I wouldn't want to game plan on an intangible like that because it becomes a 50/50 shot of who gets called for PI
Well, we are talking about game planning around MATT CASSEL.
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Well, we are talking about game planning around MATT CASSEL.
No one ever did that when he was a Chief...
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