So it's assualt weapons that are the problem, huh?

[A Salt Weapon]

I stole this from another board.


Its amazing when you actually look at the stats.....

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bal-demographics-of-2012-baltimore-homicides-20121231,0,4137229.story



Each year, the Baltimore Police homicide section compiles statistics on city killings. Here's how some of the data break down:

Murders: 217
Clearance rate (cases closed by arrest or administratively): 47.4 percent
Victims injured in prior years who died this year: 7
Cases from prior years closed this year (which counts toward this year's clearance rate, per FBI guidelines): 28

Cause:
Arson: 1
Blunt force: 7 (3.6%)
Handgun: 181 (83.4%)
Knife/sharp object: 20 (9.2%)
Shotgun/rifle: 2
Strangle/suffocation: 2
Vehicle: 1
Other: 3

Gender:
Male: 196 (90.3%)
Female: 21 (9.7%)

Race:
Asian: 1
Black: 204 (94.4%)
Hispanic: 1
White: 10 (4.6%)

Age groups:
Juvenile: 11 (5%)
Adult: 206 (95%)

35 and over: 72 (33.2%)
25-34: 68 (31.3%)
24 and under: 77 (35.5%)

Motives:
Argument: 14
Arson: 1
Child abuse: 6
Dispute over money: 2
Domestic: 3
Drugs: 3
Neighborhood (dispute?): 1
Retaliation: 3
Robbery: 10
Other: 10
Unknown: 163

Central: 15
Southeastern: 11
Eastern: 36
Northeastern: 27
Northern: 24
Northwestern: 28
Western: 30
Southwestern: 32
Southern: 14


(Known) suspects with criminal records: 79.1 percent
Suspects with drug arrests: 61.6 percent
Suspects on parole and probation at time of killing: 23.3 percent
Suspects arrested for prior gun crimes: 45.3 percent


Victims with criminal records: 82.3 percent
Victims with drug arrests: 68.4 percent
Victims on parole and probation at time of death: 24.2 percent
Victims arrested for prior gun crimes: 37.7 percent


So clearly we have an assault weapon problem. I suspect every other major city statistics are similar, and the country's as well.
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[HonestChieffan]

Now they are trotting out Gabby. what a crock of shit

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Now they are trotting out Gabby. what a crock of shit

Victims should just go away and .

[frazod]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yeah, those strict gun laws in Chicago did so much good, heh?

Chicago is awash is dirtbag criminals and liberal **** politicians who refuse to do anything about them.

But it's hard to successfully promote a fear agenda without heavily-armed criminals. I wonder if Rahmbo pays double-bonus bounties for every honor student they grease?

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by 2bikemike

Thought this was pretty funny!

Yep, that is funny, however, I am confused. Are you implying nothing should be illegal because enforcement doesn't work?

[CrazyPhuD]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

Yep, that is funny, however, I am confused. Are you implying nothing should be illegal because enforcement doesn't work?

No I think he's implying that both the science and the history have shown the prohibition is entirely ineffective because it never actually addresses the social problem.

Guns aren't the problem because ironically it's drug prohibition and the ensuing crime that is the root cause of most of those criminal oriented deaths.

In the case of drugs the root problem isn't drugs. It's addiction, 'banning' drugs doesn't address addiction it just raises their costs, both monetary and societal. How much less crime, violence and general drug induced misery would there be if we spent the trillions of dollars we have spent trying to prevent drugs from entering this country and instead spent those trillions of dollars treating addiction?

Probably the most harmful thing in our society isn't drugs or guns. It's prohibition, it has caused more death, more harm and more misery than drugs or guns combined. But people like telling people what to think, believe, and do because it makes them feel powerful.

No one cares about actually solving problems, they just like settling scores.

[2bikemike]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

Yep, that is funny, however, I am confused. Are you implying nothing should be illegal because enforcement doesn't work?

Not at all. I have no problem with things being illegal. I just don't think there should be any further restrictions on firearms. Especially the so called "assault weapons".

CrazyPhuD said it much better than I did.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD

No I think he's implying that both the science and the history have shown the prohibition is entirely ineffective because it never actually addresses the social problem.

Guns aren't the problem because ironically it's drug prohibition and the ensuing crime that is the root cause of most of those criminal oriented deaths.

In the case of drugs the root problem isn't drugs. It's addiction, 'banning' drugs doesn't address addiction it just raises their costs, both monetary and societal. How much less crime, violence and general drug induced misery would there be if we spent the trillions of dollars we have spent trying to prevent drugs from entering this country and instead spent those trillions of dollars treating addiction?

Probably the most harmful thing in our society isn't drugs or guns. It's prohibition, it has caused more death, more harm and more misery than drugs or guns combined. But people like telling people what to think, believe, and do because it makes them feel powerful.

No one cares about actually solving problems, they just like settling scores.

Well put. Do you mind if I share that with some friends?

[LiveSteam]

[BigRedChief]

People who think banning assault weapons will make them safer are living in a dream world. Check the facts, educate yourself. It's a useless exercise.

[teedubya]

I was in Chicago for almost 36 hours this week and I wasn't shot at ONCE!!! It's a miracle... but God made up for it, by making me almost die in a plane crash...

Hopefully when I'm in New Orleans, no "Final Destination" curse follows me. heh.

I had a dream that a huge fracking earthquake took place this weekend in New Orleans... so that sucks.

[CrazyPhuD]

Originally Posted by teedubya

I was in Chicago for almost 36 hours this week and I wasn't shot at ONCE!!! It's a miracle... but God made up for it, by making me almost die in a plane crash...

Hopefully when I'm in New Orleans, no "Final Destination" curse follows me. heh.

I had a dream that a huge fracking earthquake took place this weekend in New Orleans... so that sucks.

The problem is you weren't wearing black face. I bet if you walked around Chicago wearing black face you'd get shot at!

[frazod]

Originally Posted by teedubya

I was in Chicago for almost 36 hours this week and I wasn't shot at ONCE!!! It's a miracle... but God made up for it, by making me almost die in a plane crash...

Hopefully when I'm in New Orleans, no "Final Destination" curse follows me. heh.

I had a dream that a huge fracking earthquake took place this weekend in New Orleans... so that sucks.

I thought we were going to do lunch, douche!

[KILLER_CLOWN]

Search high and low for those assault weapons!!!!

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

People who think banning assault weapons will make them safer are living in a dream world. Check the facts, educate yourself. It's a useless exercise.

Glad we can agree on something political

[frazod]