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Old 01-30-2013, 10:43 AM  
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Pastor refuses to tip "I give GOD 10% why do you get 18%"

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Unhappy with having to pay a restaurant's auto-gratuity of 18% for parties of eight or more, a pissed-off pastor used his receipt to express his indignation.

"I give God 10% — why do you get 18?," the man wrote above the autograt line before crossing out the pre-printed tip and signing the receipt "pastor."

The St. Louis-area server who posted a pic of the receipt on Reddit said the pastor was dining with a party of 20, and asked to have the $200+ bill broken up into smaller increments in a failed attempt to avoid paying the 18% tip.

"They had no problem with my service, and told me I was great," the server said. "They just didn't want to pay when the time came."

Redditors have been trying to track down the less-than-charitable Christian, but have so far been unable to identify the culprit.

At least one pastor was forced to issue a response denying responsibility, and the server herself has asked fellow Redditors to stop posting personal information of random people "who don't deserve a Reddit mob banging down their Internet door."

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Edit: Pastor has now apologized -- waitress fired.

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Old 01-30-2013, 12:34 PM   #181
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I understand what you are saying here, most ppl think of it that way. This may be true if you expect to have the same waiter again and they remember you, BUT, if you are at a restaurant you rarely go or not in your own city this doesn't make any sense. You tip at the end, what you give them at the end of the meal had no reflection of the service you received and it will have no bearing with you on the future. Sure, your tip probably ensures that the waiter won't be a complete asshat to the next table but how does that help you?
It only helps in that it reinforces the idea that a good job will be rewarded better, and hopefully that idea is passed on to the next customer and eventually it will come back to me.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:35 PM   #182
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If some of y'all would eat at real restaurants instead of places like Applebees then you'd be able to recognize what legitimate service is. A server does so much more for your dining experience (again, at a real restaurant) than bringing out a plate of food.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:35 PM   #183
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I agree with you man. Depenind on where I worked I made between $16-$30 an hour waiting tables.

That's just WAY too high for the work I did, and I always laughed and laughed when I was done because I couldn't believe I could wait on a table for 30-40 minutes and make $15-$30 off at that table just by being competent.

It's why I fell for the "waiter trap" and waited tables for so many years. I was good at it, it paid the bills, and I got to score with a lot of hot, young co-workers.

It was the life. Until I woke up and was 26 and still waiting tables and still hitting on 19 year olds. I thought...is this going to be cool when I'm 35? Then I ran away.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:37 PM   #184
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I tip what the service warrants. Nothing more, nothing less. My grandpa used to put a $50 out on the table when we'd dine out. He'd tell the server that it was his/her tip. If they ****ed up, he'd reduce it. It was usually pretty funny but it got good service.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:38 PM   #185
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:38 PM   #186
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If some of y'all would eat at real restaurants instead of places like Applebees then you'd be able to recognize what legitimate service is. A server does so much more for your dining experience (again, at a real restaurant) than bringing out a plate of food.
I've always enjoyed the "ninja waiter" that can refill my drink without interrupting my conversation or me even being aware that the drink was refilled.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:39 PM   #187
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If some of y'all would eat at real restaurants instead of places like Applebees then you'd be able to recognize what legitimate service is. A server does so much more for your dining experience (again, at a real restaurant) than bringing out a plate of food.
Sounds like you were born with a silver spoon. Grad student spending hundreds of dollars on beer per month and eating at real restaurant tipping 30%
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:40 PM   #188
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I am a pretty good tipper when being served, however if I hate that there are tip jars at every counter. I am not usually throwing money into those kittys.

While in Europe last summer we were unsure of the custom so we asked about tipping. We were told if you got really good service you could leave around 10% but only if you want to. Coming from the good ol USA, I couldn't in good consious not tip, and it was usually more than 10%.

Another odd thing about Europe was they pretty much leave you alone after taking your order and delivering your food. You pretty much have to wave them down to get their attention for drink refills and to get your check. The first couple of times I sat there quite a while waiting for a bill. Here it's all about turnover, there they don't seem to concerned about it.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:41 PM   #189
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The other thing I don't like/get about tipping is that I can go into the following three restaurants and get the same level of service and tip different amounts (assuming 20%):

1. I go into a diner and pay $12 for dinner and leave a $2.40 tip.

2. I go into a midscale restaurant and pay $25 for dinner and leave a $5 tip.

3. I go into an upper-end restaurant and pay $75 for dinner and leave a $15 tip.

Now, in the upper-end restaurant I'll usually have the fellow who fills my water glass frequently, but otherwise I don't usually see much difference in service. Why does the waitress at the midscale restaurant get twice as much tip money when there's no difference in the amount of work they do? It seems unfair that the tip is based on the cost of the food.

And I should point out that I've never received a tip in 20+ year of work as an engineer, economic research, and market/demographic researcher. I really think there should be more tipping in these industries for work well done.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:42 PM   #190
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As a customer, we appreciate the chit chat. I'm not going to keep a server that just got triple-sat and is already in the weeds... But nothing wrong with a friendly conversation... I made some great connections while I was waiting tables -- some networking that definitely helped jumpstart my career.
You sound like a cocky, arrogant, **** that just chose the profession so you could pull some young hostess ass.
There are two types of good servers...one of them are the good chit-chatters as long as they can multi-task well enough to be competent at the REAL purpose of their jobs. I've ran across a few of these in my days.

Shit, if I ran a restaurant...I wouldn't even mind having a few on staff that weren't good at running their own food because there are certain customers that are simply their for the chit chat...

but I'm definitely employing guys like me over a bunch of chatty kathies...which makes guys like me work twice as hard since I have to run all of their ****ing food and get all of their ****ing refills after I run their god damn food.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:43 PM   #191
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If some of y'all would eat at real restaurants instead of places like Applebees then you'd be able to recognize what legitimate service is. A server does so much more for your dining experience (again, at a real restaurant) than bringing out a plate of food.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:43 PM   #192
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Many restaurants define it as mandatory with a large group (and rightfully so). This guy is likely stealing.
you can yell at the manager and say the service sucked and the food sucked and then they will remove the auto grat. Legally they can't make you tip.

But **** that pastor and mark down another reason why I hate religion and their stupid followers.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:43 PM   #193
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Getting paid above and beyond for service that is above and beyond is a STAPLE in the service industry. Incentive-based pay isn't unique to food service.
But it's not truly incentive-based pay. It's not consistent enough to qualify. It's still dependent on the consumer which, as evidenced by this thread, can have wildly differing opinions on where that incentive should start and stop. Or even if the incentive itself is warranted. A waiter can give above and beyond service, and the consumer could be 110% satisfied, and still not give a tip for whatever illogical reason. And there's absolutely nothing that could be done in a situation like that. Waiter is SOL, despite doing nothing wrong.

I understand it's a staple in the industry, but other cultures have clearly shown that it's not actually necessary. Sometimes the rewards can outweigh the risk for the waiter, which is obviously why they tolerate it. But it's still a very flawed practice.
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I've always enjoyed the "ninja waiter" that can refill my drink without interrupting my conversation or me even being aware that the drink was refilled.
I despise being in the middle of a sentence and the server comes over and talks over the top of me. I kind of understand why it happens, but man, that's annoying. Just come over and fill my water and smile. If we want something we'll tell you.
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I would almost ALWAYS get tip on top of gratuity -- especially around holidays.

I should also mention that when I worked as a waiter, it was fine dining.
Nah. Auto-grat is a tool to be racist. I hated it. I'd have people ask me all the time..."should I grat them?" "Should I grat them?" They'd grat every black table and they'd leave it off of every white table. It's a ****ing sham. If I owned a restaurant I'd have the staff vote to either have it be mandatory or never have it. It's bullshit.

And I know EVERY server has the choice...so when I get auto-gratted they get the auto grat and with my friends they just robbed themselves of a lot of $$$ because we tip well and the auto grat adds GRATUITY TO THE SUBTOTAL, not to the total in which most everyone tips. (You're supposed to tip 15-20% on the subtotal, not the total with tax)...

so an 18% auto grat is like a 15% tip

what I'd run into is some people who would circle the auto grat to acknowledge they saw it and then tip it up to 20-25% OR some who just didn't see it and then you'd get double tipped which is pretty shady on the servers part
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