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Newtown Calls for Armed School Officers

The Newtown Board of Education will be asking the town to make room for more armed police officers in its budget.

In a meeting Thursday, the board voted to request the town to add full time uniformed school resource officers to its four elementary school s for the next fiscal year was approved this evening.
The officers would be Newtown police officers.

“Our parents are demanding of us that things are made safe and secure and certain measures areput in place,” said Chairwoman Debbie Leidlein. “So we’re being very thoughtful.”

Multiple police officers have been stationed at all Newtown schools since the December 14th shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary killed twenty children and 6 teachers. Those officers will remain at the school through the remainder of the school year. For the next fiscal year, resource officers were budgeted only to be at Middle and High Schools.

Parents say security involves more than a police presence. “My main concern is with accessibility to these school, said Neil Johnson, a parent of two Newtown students. “On december 14th that was the main bare-boned reason that occurred.”

“After what happened in our community, i just think we should go over and above and provide a shining example for the rest of the world and protect our kids,” said resident Donna Lorenz.
Members of the Board of Education will be meeting Friday with state and federal officials on securing additions funding for school security.

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/l...320221.html?dr
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:17 PM   #61
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Really? Because that was the only evidence supporting your belief that an AR-15 wasn't used.
I don't care what he used, you stupid ****. And to paraphrase your hero Swillary, what difference does it make? He was killing defenseless children and unarmed teachers. Whether he was using a rifle, or pistols, or a flame thrower, he had all the time in the world to do what he did.

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Old 02-01-2013, 10:46 PM   #62
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Let me ask, do you think gun violence would be reduced under that system?
Do you mean the system of putting everyone to death who committed a crime with a firearm?
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:59 PM   #63
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Vice President Joe Biden acknowledged that new gun laws would not "fundamentally alter" the likelihood of another mass shooting, though he insisted there has been a "sea change" in American views on guns in the wake of Newtown.

"Nothing we're going to do is going to fundamentally alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that we will bring gun deaths down to 1,000 a year from what it is now," Biden told reporters Thursday afternoon after he spent over an hour lunching with Democratic senators at the Capitol.
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:28 PM   #64
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:24 AM   #65
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I don't care what he used, you stupid ****. And to paraphrase your hero Swillary, what difference does it make? He was killing defenseless children and unarmed teachers. Whether he was using a rifle, or pistols, or a flame thrower, he had all the time in the world to do what he did.

If you didn't care, why did you push your chips in on him having only 4 handguns, Dolly?
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:29 AM   #66
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The Newtown Board of Education will be asking the town to make room for more armed police officers in its budget.

In a meeting Thursday, the board voted to request the town to add full time uniformed school resource officers to its four elementary school s for the next fiscal year was approved this evening.
The officers would be Newtown police officers.

“Our parents are demanding of us that things are made safe and secure and certain measures areput in place,” said Chairwoman Debbie Leidlein. “So we’re being very thoughtful.”

Multiple police officers have been stationed at all Newtown schools since the December 14th shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary killed twenty children and 6 teachers. Those officers will remain at the school through the remainder of the school year. For the next fiscal year, resource officers were budgeted only to be at Middle and High Schools.

Parents say security involves more than a police presence. “My main concern is with accessibility to these school, said Neil Johnson, a parent of two Newtown students. “On december 14th that was the main bare-boned reason that occurred.”

“After what happened in our community, i just think we should go over and above and provide a shining example for the rest of the world and protect our kids,” said resident Donna Lorenz.
Members of the Board of Education will be meeting Friday with state and federal officials on securing additions funding for school security.

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/l...320221.html?dr
I think its a horrible idea. No armed guards could have stopped Adam Lanza. One crazy determined gun man is worth more than ten armed guards. Even if it would work it doesn't make sense economically. There are literally ten of thousands of schools in the USA so your school being hit by a shooting are pretty miniscule. So instead of hiring a new teacher there hire a new armed guard.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:03 AM   #67
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Do you mean the system of putting everyone to death who committed a crime with a firearm?
Under certain conditions, yes.
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:36 AM   #68
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Old 02-02-2013, 06:46 AM   #69
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I think its a horrible idea. No armed guards could have stopped Adam Lanza. One crazy determined gun man is worth more than ten armed guards.
Wrong. Adam Lanza, and all other school shooters, are not super-human. They are cowards. They intentionally go to gun free zones to do their work. If the idea that someone or everyone is armed in an area, it would deter most of these kooks.

If these cowardly ****s want to impress me, they'll go on a rampage in a police station or an armed military base.
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School shooting just this week in Atlanta only one injured and nobody dies because the school has an armed guard on duty.

Gun control will not stop gun violence. Start protecting our children the same way we protect our money and politicians, with armed guards.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:15 AM   #72
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Make it mandatory to take a firearms safety course. Then give the teachers the option of carrying. A criminal would have no idea if every teacher was carrying or if nobody was carrying. Either way, schools would no longer seem like easy targets.
The option, yes.
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Old 02-02-2013, 08:18 AM   #73
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I think its a horrible idea. No armed guards could have stopped Adam Lanza. One crazy determined gun man is worth more than ten armed guards. Even if it would work it doesn't make sense economically. There are literally ten of thousands of schools in the USA so your school being hit by a shooting are pretty miniscule. So instead of hiring a new teacher there hire a new armed guard.
Adam Lanza was confronted by teachers, the principle and school psychiatrist, the principle and school shrink he killed in the hallway execution style. Had they been able to confront him with more than an empty hand that entire scenario works out differently.
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Adam Lanza was confronted by teachers, the principle and school psychiatrist, the principle and school shrink he killed in the hallway execution style. Had they been able to confront him with more than an empty hand that entire scenario works out differently.
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Old 02-02-2013, 09:05 AM   #75
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There's a difference between having a police officer, having an armed guard, and having armed staff. Having cops stationed at schools is not a bad idea, assuming it can be afforded. As far as I know, there aren't many districts in this country that can take a cop or two off the streets every day for every school there. However, lots of places use off-duty or retired police, with which I have no problem. Almost every time we hear of an armed shooter being stopped, it's by a responding police officer, so sure.

I'm not overjoyed about the idea of armed guards - that is, non-cops - because, well, they're not cops. Security job positions are typically very low-paid jobs with very little training and - even considering that the guard would have classes in how to use a firearm safely - I would not want to entrust the next generation in the hands of people with no experience in crisis management. I recognize that many other disagree with me on this point, which is fine.

Arming teachers is the worst idea. Do we really think it's a good idea to introduce thousands more guns into the schoolyards, in the hands of teachers, a job which is already overworked, underpaid, and highly stressful? How long would it be before aggressive students wrest them from the hands of those teachers? Before a few teachers themselves lose their own shit and open fire? Or before students develop a full-on bunker mentality after having to report to an armed camp every day to learn their times tables?

Adam Lanza, like most spree shooters, was not a criminal - he was a college student who went crazy. The best way to have prevented his shooting would have been if his dumbshit mother wouldn't have kept a roomful of guns in a house where a mental patient lived; same goes for Kip Kinkel in Oregon in 1998 and Jeffrey Weise on the Red Lake Indian Reservation. The Virginia Tech shooting would have been best prevented if the mental patient hadn't been allowed to buy all of those guns; similarly for Jared Laughner and James Holmes. The Columbine shooting wouldn't have happened if their straw purchasers hadn't been able to get all of their guns at the gun show and that incredibly seedy gun merchant (also, if their parents had been awake). The Fort Hood shooter bought thousand-dollar handguns with 30-round clips with no red flags raised.

These all could have been prevented, but in a lot of different ways. Arming teachers isn't one of them.
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