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Old 02-07-2013, 08:16 AM  
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Former LAPD officer on rampage in So Cal

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/lap...html?sr=fbmain




(CNN) -- A former Los Angeles police officer who police say has violently threatened his former colleagues shot at least two officers early Thursday, killing one, sparking a huge manhunt in Southern California, according to authorities.
Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, is also wanted in a double slaying Sunday in Irvine, California.
The California Highway Patrol issued an alert Thursday morning urging officers in several Southern California counties to be on the lookout for Dorner after the overnight shootings.
Two officers in Riverside were shot, one fatally, police there confirmed to CNN. CNN affiliate KTLA reported another officer was shot in Corona, California.
Irvine police identified Dorner on Wednesday as the suspect in the February 3 deaths of Keith Lawrence and Monica Quan in Irvine.
Dorner also has made violent threats against other Los Angeles police officers, the agency said Wednesday.
"I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty," Dorner allegedly wrote in a lengthy letter promising retribution against the department, where he worked from 2005 until 2008. An LAPD source provided the document to CNN.
The letter writer claimed he was terminated for reporting excessive force by a fellow officer, and said his attacks were retribution for his termination, as well as a culture of racism and violence he says continues within the department.
He called the attacks against police "a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name."
Los Angeles police warned people who encounter Dorner not to approach him, saying he is likely "armed and extremely dangerous."
"Our department is implementing all measures possible to ensure the safety of our LAPD personnel, their families and the Los Angeles community, and will continue to do so until Dorner is apprehended and all threats have been abated," police said in a statement.
CNN's Mallory Simon and Deanna Hackney contributed to this report.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:41 PM   #1216
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Because the argument isn't even about this guy. It's about a massive principle that our society is built on. There are situations where innocent people are assumed to be guilty. Doing something that implies guilt like running doesn't always mean the person committed the crime.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying this guy is innocent. But it's not about him. It's about doing the legal thing 100% of the time so it never costs somebody who is innocent. The justice system is there so decisions are made without emotion or prejudice people. You are saying it's cool that people both prejudice and emotional make a decision on how this guy should go out.

If someone else gets hurt due to this it's horrible and I will be very upset to hear it. But there are things that need defending no matter what, and right by trial is one of them. By risking their lives, the police are essentially fighting for that right. This isn't about this guy, its about our way as a justice system. No matter what the circumstances that shouldn't change.
His trial started and ended today, by him killing more police while he was running from them. He knew what he was doing, and wanted it this way. You know people can decline fighting for their innocence, he did that over the course past week.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:41 PM   #1217
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after what the lapd has done in the past week how could he put the guns down even if he wanted to?

They shot up two Asian ladies.

Something is wrong here
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No shit Sherlock.

He could have surrendered publicly though, before killing ANOTHER cop today.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:41 PM   #1218
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Some people are shitty at their job, I'm sure you know (if you work). But I think overall the police are trying to do the right thing in most cases.
I agree with you here but who knows overall. What if somebody really is trying to cover something? You just can't throw away the workings of our system, no matter the circumstances. There are going to be times when you can't get a guy in alive, but you should be doing everything you can to prevent that.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:41 PM   #1219
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**** no I'm not.


At you forgetting the cops shot up a, couple of innocent Asian ladies delivering newspapers while trying to kill this guy?
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I'm just trying to make sense of this, dude. Im not siding with the cops. But if they had him surrounded and he killed 2 cops and opened a shitload of fire on them, at that point they can sorta kill him. I've never seen them ya know...torch a house to accomplsh that though.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:41 PM   #1220
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Some people are shitty at their job, I'm sure you know (if you work). But I think overall the police are trying to do the right thing in most cases.
Being shitty at your job is no excuse for shooting innocent people. That is attempted manslaughter at the least, and they will never do jail time. ****ing shitty cop apologist.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:41 PM   #1221
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Because the argument isn't even about this guy. It's about a massive principle that our society is built on. There are situations where innocent people are assumed to be guilty. Doing something that implies guilt like running doesn't always mean the person committed the crime.

Don't get me wrong I am not saying this guy is innocent. But it's not about him. It's about doing the legal thing 100% of the time so it never costs somebody who is innocent. The justice system is there so decisions are made without emotion or prejudice people. You are saying it's cool that people both prejudice and emotional make a decision on how this guy should go out.

If someone else gets hurt due to this it's horrible and I will be very upset to hear it. But there are things that need defending no matter what, and right by trial is one of them. By risking their lives, the police are essentially fighting for that right. This isn't about this guy, its about our way as a justice system. No matter what the circumstances that shouldn't change.
You summed up my thoughts perfectly.

Thank you
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:41 PM   #1222
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I'll listen to it again myself. I've seen quite a bit of footage today so I may be mistaken.
I hear something about gas, or get the gas.
I also heard **** on CBS like 4 times. The anchor apologizing. The news producer was shitting is pans when that happened, 4times. Lol
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:42 PM   #1223
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Every officer involved with those shootings should be fired and never allowed to work LE again. But sooner or later the criminal has to take some responsibility here.
No, they SHOULD be sent to prison.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:42 PM   #1224
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His trial started and ended today, by him killing more police while he was running from them. He knew what he was doing, and wanted it this way. You know people can decline fighting for their innocence, he did that over the course past week.
And again, this isn't about him. It's about how our system works. The cops don't get to decide who gets a trial and who doesn't. It can be a shitty situation sometimes, but it shouldn't matter.
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No shit Sherlock.

He could have surrendered publicly though, before killing ANOTHER cop today.
Then let them possibly kill him in custody?
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:43 PM   #1226
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**** no I'm not.


At you forgetting the cops shot up a, couple of innocent Asian ladies delivering newspapers while trying to kill this guy?
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They did. They will be paid. No doubt.

That doesn't take away the fact Dorner wanted to die. He said so. He went out just like he wanted. It was his last wish, and it was granted.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:44 PM   #1227
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I'm just trying to make sense of this, dude. Im not siding with the cops. But if they had him surrounded and he killed 2 cops and opened a shitload of fire on them, at that point they can sorta kill him. I've never seen them ya know...torch a house to accomplsh that though.
yes they can in a gun fight.

Burning the house down?
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True. Emotion takes over at that point. But I'M NOT A SWORN OFFICER OF THE LAW. You know someone we count on to be better than us. Someone we count on to uphold our justice system
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Cool well you continue to be vocal on charges needing to be brought on the officers that stopped him today. You'll be a popular guy.
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He could have surrendered publicly though, before killing ANOTHER cop today.
Stop the sanity.
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