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Old 02-07-2013, 08:16 AM  
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Former LAPD officer on rampage in So Cal

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/07/us/lap...html?sr=fbmain




(CNN) -- A former Los Angeles police officer who police say has violently threatened his former colleagues shot at least two officers early Thursday, killing one, sparking a huge manhunt in Southern California, according to authorities.
Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, is also wanted in a double slaying Sunday in Irvine, California.
The California Highway Patrol issued an alert Thursday morning urging officers in several Southern California counties to be on the lookout for Dorner after the overnight shootings.
Two officers in Riverside were shot, one fatally, police there confirmed to CNN. CNN affiliate KTLA reported another officer was shot in Corona, California.
Irvine police identified Dorner on Wednesday as the suspect in the February 3 deaths of Keith Lawrence and Monica Quan in Irvine.
Dorner also has made violent threats against other Los Angeles police officers, the agency said Wednesday.
"I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty," Dorner allegedly wrote in a lengthy letter promising retribution against the department, where he worked from 2005 until 2008. An LAPD source provided the document to CNN.
The letter writer claimed he was terminated for reporting excessive force by a fellow officer, and said his attacks were retribution for his termination, as well as a culture of racism and violence he says continues within the department.
He called the attacks against police "a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name."
Los Angeles police warned people who encounter Dorner not to approach him, saying he is likely "armed and extremely dangerous."
"Our department is implementing all measures possible to ensure the safety of our LAPD personnel, their families and the Los Angeles community, and will continue to do so until Dorner is apprehended and all threats have been abated," police said in a statement.
CNN's Mallory Simon and Deanna Hackney contributed to this report.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:49 PM   #1246
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This is 'Merica, why is he speaking in Mexican?
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:49 PM   #1247
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he asked to be burnt alive?


Actually he asked for someone to apologize for falsely ruining his life. Then he would quit
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He ruined his own life. He made his own decisions. Many people have been fired, doesn't mean you go kill the families of others because you are mad.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:49 PM   #1248
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Ahhh... now he is talking that Mexican jibber jabber, now we can tune away.

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Old 02-12-2013, 06:50 PM   #1249
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So you didn't want him to surrender?
Not to any of the police involved.

He would have had to get out of California, and made it a federal case, which wasn't happening.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:51 PM   #1250
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Ahhh... now he is talking that Mexican jibber jabber, now we can tune away.

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Old 02-12-2013, 06:51 PM   #1251
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He ruined his own life. He made his own decisions. Many people have been fired, doesn't mean you go kill the families of others because you are mad.
I agree.

But you don't burn the house down.

That isn't how our justice system is supposed to work
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:51 PM   #1252
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are you?

The FBI should have, IMO, taken all of this over quite some time ago. Local sheriff, police, especially ANYONE related to the lapd should have taken a back seat.

laps obviously just wanted him dead.
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I don't disagree with any of that, but thus guy had several days where he could have turned himself over to another jurisdiction if he wanted a trial. He didn't. Sooner or later he has to take some responsibility for his own actions.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:52 PM   #1253
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Do we have proof the cops burned the house down to kill him? Do they deserve a fair trial or are we just going to assume they're guilty (highly probable).
That's correct. They deserve it as well and the public may well convict them and never turn back. But they will have their day in actual court even if something comes of it.

This is about cops not getting the ability to be judge and jury, because if you give it now you come into a grey area at some point. Some day a corrupt cop could use it, or an honest cop kill a person who appeared guilty but wasn't.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:52 PM   #1254
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Not to any of the police involved.

He would have had to get out of California, and made it a federal case, which wasn't happening.
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Well then your expectations were completely wrong. This is a local and state issue not a federal one.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:52 PM   #1255
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I'm guessing Dorner set the fire and then shot himself to make it appear the police burned him to death.
How would he know they were saying to burn it down on TV?


Coincidence? Come on man.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:53 PM   #1256
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If the guy does something that forces the cops to shoot him then I don't have an issue with it. But at some point in this thread it became almost a hypothetical of if the cops should be allowed to kill him just to stop the risk of more things. About the argument with the fire. That's what I have an issue with. It may suck, but unless they are in immediate danger with this guy killing him is not right. And when I say not right, I don't say it with any sympathy towards the guy, I say it about our system and protecting it.

Cops don't have the right to be judge and jury. In order to protect this, you can't give it to them ever, not even in an obvious situation.
Just like someone else said, how do we know who started the fire? By saying it was the police is jumping to conclusions, thus saying the police don't get a "fair trial" about telling their side of how the fire started.

Ehh I'm not a political person. Don't really care. I believe this guy died a death he deserved. Most people deserve a fair trial. He didn't. Their are exceptions for everything, he is an exception.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:53 PM   #1257
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Well then your expectations were completely wrong. This is a local and state issue not a federal one.
then he can't turn himself in.

Lapd wanted him dead.

Something is wrong there
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:54 PM   #1258
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:54 PM   #1259
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I don't disagree with any of that, but thus guy had several days where he could have turned himself over to another jurisdiction if he wanted a trial. He didn't. Sooner or later he has to take some responsibility for his own actions.
No doubt. But in the end those actions by him can't transfer the power of the justice system over to the police. This is a situation where it's pretty unfair with the amount of things this guy has done. But to me, in the end, this is about protecting our ideals.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:54 PM   #1260
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I agree.

But you don't burn the house down.

That isn't how our justice system is supposed to work
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Where in the Constitution does it say "You should not burn down a house to capture a suspect?"
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