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Old 02-07-2013, 08:16 AM  
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Former LAPD officer on rampage in So Cal

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(CNN) -- A former Los Angeles police officer who police say has violently threatened his former colleagues shot at least two officers early Thursday, killing one, sparking a huge manhunt in Southern California, according to authorities.
Christopher Jordan Dorner, 33, is also wanted in a double slaying Sunday in Irvine, California.
The California Highway Patrol issued an alert Thursday morning urging officers in several Southern California counties to be on the lookout for Dorner after the overnight shootings.
Two officers in Riverside were shot, one fatally, police there confirmed to CNN. CNN affiliate KTLA reported another officer was shot in Corona, California.
Irvine police identified Dorner on Wednesday as the suspect in the February 3 deaths of Keith Lawrence and Monica Quan in Irvine.
Dorner also has made violent threats against other Los Angeles police officers, the agency said Wednesday.
"I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty," Dorner allegedly wrote in a lengthy letter promising retribution against the department, where he worked from 2005 until 2008. An LAPD source provided the document to CNN.
The letter writer claimed he was terminated for reporting excessive force by a fellow officer, and said his attacks were retribution for his termination, as well as a culture of racism and violence he says continues within the department.
He called the attacks against police "a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name."
Los Angeles police warned people who encounter Dorner not to approach him, saying he is likely "armed and extremely dangerous."
"Our department is implementing all measures possible to ensure the safety of our LAPD personnel, their families and the Los Angeles community, and will continue to do so until Dorner is apprehended and all threats have been abated," police said in a statement.
CNN's Mallory Simon and Deanna Hackney contributed to this report.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:13 PM   #1321
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police scanner just said there were escape routes from the basement
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:13 PM   #1322
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No. He got in a pursuit prior. Then went running into the cabin. I don't think the hostages ran with him haha
Maybe he is really good at enlisting Stockholm Syndrome.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:14 PM   #1323
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You wait him out.

Let him starve if you have to. Shut off the water.

If he dies then it's on him.


I mean shit standoffs happen quite frequently.

what happened today doesn't
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I will give you that they could have waited out a day or so but since he had no hostages you could make an argument either way.

The best way to get him out was to smoke him out and is a common practice in standoff situations.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:14 PM   #1324
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I give a shit.

We don't know what was going on at that point. He could have been trying to surrender, likely not, but burning the house down doesn't seem like something that is protocol
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Please show me where it says in the San Bernardino County Sheriff's policy does it say you cannot burn down a house? I'd bet you it doesn't.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:15 PM   #1325
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I give a shit.

We don't know what was going on at that point. He could have been trying to surrender, likely not, but burning the house down doesn't seem like something that is protocol
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I agree the fire is unheard of. But trying to surrender? The guy was killing cops at any given opportunity. And yes, I know the ****ing department is corrupt and several of their officers are corrupt and bad apples.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:15 PM   #1326
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police scanner just said there were escape routes from the basement
What! Like tunnels? If they mean like a door that opens up to the outside then I would hope the cops having the place surrounded would still cover that. This is just surreal.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:15 PM   #1327
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And yet you can't connect the dots between live rounds and a propane tank. Amazing.
Or...you can't. Mythbusters proved that bullets don't cause explosions/fires.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:15 PM   #1328
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:15 PM   #1329
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If he's taken into custody and then dies I'd be questioning it myself.

In this scenario I think he got what he wanted.
I can see that he possibly wanted them to kill him.

Out just doesn't seem right that they burnt the house, while not knowing for sure if anyone else was there.

Look at what has happened in this case. Everything.

The blue truck, the black truck. The women getting shot.

Now today.

No sense
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:15 PM   #1330
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police scanner just said there were escape routes from the basement
Wow.
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:16 PM   #1331
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But who really gives a shit? If they went in and shot him to pieces, or set the house on fire to kill him, what's the difference other than setting the fire requires much less risk of losing more officers, considering this guy had proven he will shoot and kill any officer he can.
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I will give you that they could have waited out a day or so but since he had no hostages you could make an argument either way.

The best way to get him out was to smoke him out and is a common practice in standoff situations.
Setting a house on fire is standard practice?
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:16 PM   #1333
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:16 PM   #1334
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The fire may have been accidental. We only have conspiracy theories about it at this point.
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"Make a big portal..."
3min later
"Guys can you pull that door out, we think they may be something underneath it.... go ahead and turn it and pull it out"
"See camouflage underneath that door?"
"No only some garbage bags... I see some blood splatter in the far corner"
"What corner?"
"Right across from the 1-4 corner"
"I think you're meaning the 1-2"
"Alright Steve* we're going to go ahead with our plan with the burner-"
"Copy"
"-the one we talked about"
4:16
Control, BURNERS DEPLOYED AND WE HAVE A FIRE
Copy, burners deployed and we have a fire
Guys be ready on the #4 side, we have fire on the front he might come out the back
One side fully engulfed, fire on the (port?, porch?)
...we're down here on... road... bring an engine down here
(14?) fires are out
ONE SHOT FIRED FROM INSIDE THE RESIDENCE
Roll in in stage
61 lincoln, to all units. all perimeter units. stand by
1-2 corner fully engulfed
we have ammo exploding inside
Control... status check
I'm over on the 4 side
we have fire back there yet?
....Fully engulfed
copy, number 2 and 4, fully engulfed
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Old 02-12-2013, 07:17 PM   #1335
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I'd wait and see on that one... someone might just be calling and trying to troll the police department.
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