Chiefs The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll - Page 31

Frankie · 02-08-2013, 12:23 PM

Scenario (hypothetical):

It has become obvious that the Chiefs will pass on a QB with the top pick and will address the QB need (a) later in round 1, (b) in round 2, or (c) by signing a veteran. No trade down is planned either.

There seems to be the following three names on top of the draft. Among these three which one would you want the Chiefs to use their 1st pick on:

1- LT Luke Joekel (meaning Albert will walk)

2- DE Star Lotulelei (meaning T-Jax will be cut)

3- Jarvis Jones (meaning we are thinking transition to 43 soon)

4- Other (name and explain)

KEEP IN MIND

This is not a Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson discussion. Keep that argument in the hundreds of other threads about it. This is about IF WE DON'T PICK A QB AT THE TOP! Just curious to know which of the picks mentioned makes more sense compared to the others IYO. If you are a staunch Geno fan, for example, this does not paint you as a traitor to the cause.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-10-2013, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

you can't consider him a success or failure until after the 3rd year. However, you can definitely disagree with his decisions. Fortunately there are no decisions to dislike, yet.

If Reid passes on a QB in the first round, I won't view it as a failure, nor will I view negatively, whatsoever.

I hope he likes a guy in the first but if he doesn't, big deal. The guy has found ways to win with lessor valued draft picks and I'm certain he will identify and draft a QB in the next two years.

RunKC · 02-10-2013, 04:09 PM

I'm not worried about Tyler Wilson's hands at all. They have never been a problem for him and I don't see them being a problem unless he played in Seattle where it rains half the time.

Mark this down. 1 or 2 QB's will start to launch up the draft board by the end of this month. It's gonna be either Wilson, Barkley, Glennon or Nassib.

Barkley is the favorite to rise IMO. I think he will easily have the best interviews.

milkman · 02-10-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

And yet he was still a great college QB, just like I said.

And just like I said, you have no clue what the hell you are talking about.

milkman · 02-10-2013, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If Reid passes on a QB in the first round, I won't view it as a failure, nor will I view negatively, whatsoever.

I hope he likes a guy in the first but if he doesn't, big deal. The guy has found ways to win with lessor valued draft picks and I'm certain he will identify and draft a QB in the next two years.

Reid has found a way to win with a #2 overall QB.

RunKC · 02-10-2013, 04:15 PM

And one thing is for damn sure. Last season was the first time I ever rooted for my team to lose. I did not ****ing do root for this team to lose just to we can sign Alex Smith and draft a ****ing LT first overall.

Bowser · 02-10-2013, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC

And one thing is for damn sure. Last season was the first time I ever rooted for my team to lose. I did not ****ing do root for this team to lose just to we can sign Alex Smith and draft a ****ing LT first overall.

On this I wholeheartedly agree with you.

Frankie · 02-10-2013, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If Reid passes on a QB in the first round, I won't view it as a failure, nor will I view negatively, whatsoever.

I hope he likes a guy in the first but if he doesn't, big deal. The guy has found ways to win with lessor valued draft picks and I'm certain he will identify and draft a QB in the next two years.

If you trust KFFL it could be they are thinking Nick Foles to develop and (IMO) possibly Alex Smith to bridge.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...256524&page=28

RunKC · 02-10-2013, 04:21 PM

I would love it if the Eagles just cut Foles because he didn't fit Chip Kelly's offense and nobody would give up picks for him.

We'd be able to get Foles and draft a QB.

Probably won't happen though.

Bowser · 02-10-2013, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie

If you trust KFFL it could be they are thinking Nick Foles to develop and (IMO) possibly Alex Smith to bridge.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...256524&page=28

I trust KFFL to throw this shit against a wall just to see what sticks.

Branden Albert's Huge Balls · 02-10-2013, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

Reid has found a way to win with a #2 overall QB.

Yep.

All other avenues he tried were ultra fail.

He's not about to risk his new job on some slapdick QB.

Saccopoo · 02-10-2013, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, it's not.

The Combines haven't even taken place yet in the minds of many CPers, Smith is a Super Bowl QB that's unquestionably the number overall choice.

Yet, outside of this forum, he's viewed by many as a second rounder, a guy with questionable leadeship skills and for certain, he's no where near the consensus number one pick.

Now, that's not to say that he won't become those things, but similar things were said about Jimmy Clausen a few years back, yet he fell to the second round and has sucked ass in the NFL.

Let's be real for a second. Jimmy Clausen was a spoon fed weiner with an overall lack of skills for the position at the next level. Arm strength was middling at best, zero mobility, a lack of pocket presence, etc. There was no way that this guy was going to be a good pro and the only reason that people got worked up around here about it was the Weis was the OC and people thought he would be an easier transition because he knew the system.

There is no way that Clausen is even close to Geno in terms of being an NFL prospect. NOT EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE.

Geno is legit, and most drafniks have had him going to the Chiefs at #1. Other than Kiper and McShay. So, I guess it comes down to who you find plausible in terms of player draft analysis - the two draftnik helmetheads at ESPN or just about everybody else on the planet.

O.city · 02-10-2013, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

That's not logic, that's an assumption that past performance over a limited data set can be extrapolated into the future along a straight line.

Assumption? It's a fact based on history.

Do you think Alex smith is the guy to buck that trend?

HotCarl · 02-10-2013, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoWalrus

Yep.

All other avenues he tried were ultra fail.

He's not about to risk his new job on some slapdick QB.

Exactly. Which I'm sure is why he will choose Alex.

SNR · 02-10-2013, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotCarl

Exactly. Which I'm sure is why he will choose Alex.

Turn your rep on

HotCarl · 02-10-2013, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

Turn your rep on

I'm afraid to turn anything on around you Mr. Rape. You seem to be classless and deranged.

View Poll Results: If no QB then who?
LT Luke Joekel	40	31.01%
DE Star Lotulelei	30	23.26%
LB Jarvis Jones	19	14.73%
Other (who, why?)	40	31.01%
Voters: 129. You may not vote on this poll

02-08-2013, 12:23 PM
Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $163018	The "IF no QB with the 1st pick" poll Scenario (hypothetical): It has become obvious that the Chiefs will pass on a QB with the top pick and will address the QB need (a) later in round 1, (b) in round 2, or (c) by signing a veteran. No trade down is planned either. There seems to be the following three names on top of the draft. Among these three which one would you want the Chiefs to use their 1st pick on: 1- LT Luke Joekel (meaning Albert will walk) 2- DE Star Lotulelei (meaning T-Jax will be cut) 3- Jarvis Jones (meaning we are thinking transition to 43 soon) 4- Other (name and explain) KEEP IN MIND This is not a Geno Smith, Tyler Wilson discussion. Keep that argument in the hundreds of other threads about it. This is about IF WE DON'T PICK A QB AT THE TOP! Just curious to know which of the picks mentioned makes more sense compared to the others IYO. If you are a staunch Geno fan, for example, this does not paint you as a traitor to the cause.
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02-10-2013, 04:09 PM	#452
RunKC Just a humble bounty hunter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $26780	I'm not worried about Tyler Wilson's hands at all. They have never been a problem for him and I don't see them being a problem unless he played in Seattle where it rains half the time. Mark this down. 1 or 2 QB's will start to launch up the draft board by the end of this month. It's gonna be either Wilson, Barkley, Glennon or Nassib. Barkley is the favorite to rise IMO. I think he will easily have the best interviews. __________________
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02-10-2013, 04:15 PM	#455
RunKC Just a humble bounty hunter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $26780	And one thing is for damn sure. Last season was the first time I ever rooted for my team to lose. I did not **ing do root for this team to lose just to we can sign Alex Smith and draft a **ing LT first overall. __________________
Posts: 3,547

02-10-2013, 04:21 PM	#458
RunKC Just a humble bounty hunter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $26780	I would love it if the Eagles just cut Foles because he didn't fit Chip Kelly's offense and nobody would give up picks for him. We'd be able to get Foles and draft a QB. Probably won't happen though. __________________
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