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Old 02-10-2013, 11:03 PM  
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Low Hot Water Pressure; Cold Water Fine

A few days ago it felt like someone turned our water off mid shower. Now, given that I try to make a habit of paying bills, I knew that it couldn't be due to delinquency. Oddly, the cold water isn't affected at all, but the hot water runs at about half of its old pressure Upon further Googling, it seems that when such issues arise it is often due to a blockage in the hot water heater, often due to sediment.

The question is "What do I do about it?"

My knowledge of plumbing is low, although I can at least fix a running toilet.

I've read that draining the water heater is recommended, but the success rate seems fairly low. One guy recommended putting a dime over the only running spout to create back pressure to blow out the sediment. I'd rather not turn a shower head into a mortar shell, so I'm laying myself prostrate in front of your collective home repair acumen.

Call a plumber is my first thought, but other cheaper and quicker potential fixes that don't damage the integrity of the tank or pipes would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 04-09-2013, 03:13 PM   #31
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Old 04-09-2013, 03:17 PM   #32
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Old 04-09-2013, 03:18 PM   #33
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I started draining and flushing mine once a year and it seemed to help a lot. It's going on 10 years on the current tank, despite our really hard water.
Interesting, thanks!

The first hot water heater was defective (GE). GE offered to pay for the parts but not the labor and since it was not working too well anyway, I chose to replace it for not much more than the cost of the labor.

This last summer, we noticed that the hot water wasn't lasting as long, so I turned up the heat and it's been fine since. But my contractor of ten years believes it's just a quick fix due to sediment buildup since replacing it in 2007.

I'll look into a flush, although it may not be feasible to due to the drain emptying onto a flagstone patio with a polyurethane finish. I'd be concerned the sediment and whatever might stain or remove that finish.
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Old 04-09-2013, 03:19 PM   #34
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Are they better now? I looked into having a couple installed back in 2007 and everyone I spoke to advised against it.
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Old 04-09-2013, 03:21 PM   #35
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Interesting, thanks!

The first hot water heater was defective (GE). GE offered to pay for the parts but not the labor and since it was not working too well anyway, I chose to replace it for not much more than the cost of the labor.

This last summer, we noticed that the hot water wasn't lasting as long, so I turned up the heat and it's been fine since. But my contractor of ten years believes it's just a quick fix due to sediment buildup since replacing it in 2007.

I'll look into a flush, although it may not be feasible to due to the drain emptying onto a flagstone patio with a polyurethane finish. I'd be concerned the sediment and whatever might stain or remove that finish.
drain it straight into a clean out, using a garden hose
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Old 04-09-2013, 03:22 PM   #36
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I'll look into a flush, although it may not be feasible to due to the drain emptying onto a flagstone patio with a polyurethane finish. I'd be concerned the sediment and whatever might stain or remove that finish.
I hook a garden hose to the drain and run it out into the yard. I look for the place with the most weeds to dump the scalding water on.
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Are they better now? I looked into having a couple installed back in 2007 and everyone I spoke to advised against it.
My HWH went out in 2011 I bought another tank, I wanted an electric tankless but the guy who installed advised against it... I am wondering the same thing... Sure would love to claim that closet space in the laundry room
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Are they better now? I looked into having a couple installed back in 2007 and everyone I spoke to advised against it.
I've put in over 100 over the last 4yrs without a complaint yet. My boss and predecessor have put in multiple hundreds going back 10 years, in 4 years I've maybe worked on 15 of them probably less. That's in a pretty harsh climate as well. All Rinnais. I've repaired a shitload of bosch/poloma/myson/rheems/etc and there's not many of them sold here and none by us.

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Old 04-09-2013, 03:49 PM   #40
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I've put in over 100 over the last 4yrs without a complaint yet. My boss and predecessor have put in multiple hundreds going back 10 years, in 4 years I've maybe worked on 15 of them probably less. That's in a pretty harsh climate as well. All Rinnais. I've repaired a shitload of bosch/poloma/myson/rheems/etc and there's not many of them sold here and none by us.

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Any list of trouble shooting (before calling a plumber) on a Water Heater that goes cold quickly?
If the heater is over 8 years old, you may as well buy a new one since it's at the end of it's life expectancy. Otherwise, buy a rebuild kit that includes both elements and T-stats, TURN THE POWER OFF, drain the heater and swap out the parts, re-fill the heater then (and only then) turn the power back on. Done deal...
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ok, it still could be sediment that came from the tank and now is blocking each outlet. Easy check for that is to just remove the shower head (super easy) and see if the pressure returns at that one spot. Assuming it doesn't, my next step would be to shut off the cold water into the tank, disconnect it and put it in a pitcher, turn it back on and see if the cold water coming in to the tank has pressure. If so, you pretty much know the problem is in the tank.

OH, one last thing. When you flush the tank just connect a hose to the tank then run it to a drain/sink but I would recommend putting a fine strainer in the sink so that if there is sediment you can see exactly what it is. Will make the next steps much easier if you know.

And of course you should shut off the gas to the heater to be safe.
This. Also if you have older pipes, they could be blocked with sediment. I had this exact problem. Replaced my lines under the sink with new ones and put a new faucet in. That was 5 years ago, and I'm still on the same hot water heater without problems.
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If the heater is over 8 years old, you may as well buy a new one since it's at the end of it's life expectancy. Otherwise, buy a rebuild kit that includes both elements and T-stats, TURN THE POWER OFF, drain the heater and swap out the parts, re-fill the heater then (and only then) turn the power back on. Done deal...
It's about 11 months old.
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It's about 11 months old.
What's the temp set at? Have you had any power surges lately?
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This. Also if you have older pipes, they could be blocked with sediment. I had this exact problem. Replaced my lines under the sink with new ones and put a new faucet in. That was 5 years ago, and I'm still on the same hot water heater without problems.
Typically the hot side has rusted shut when this happens and is first noticed @ the shower since it has the most draw. Disconnect the hot pipe and use a screwdriver to break free any rust in the hot opening on the heater
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