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Old 02-11-2013, 11:11 AM  
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:48 PM   #61
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I don't know, but he just self identified as agnostic.
Fair enough, from the posts I have read I gathered he was an atheist~
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:48 PM   #62
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Just based on some of his anti-religious rants over the years, I'm guessing he doesn't quite understand the difference between "atheist" and "agnostic".
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:51 PM   #63
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Just based on some of his anti-religious rants over the years, I'm guessing he doesn't quite understand the difference between "atheist" and "agnostic".
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:52 PM   #64
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Just based on some of his anti-religious rants over the years, I'm guessing he doesn't quite understand the difference between "atheist" and "agnostic".
WTF bro.

I understand it quite well.

Atheist says does not exist.

Agnostic says I don't know if it exists.
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Old 02-13-2013, 05:54 PM   #65
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Fair enough, from the posts I have read I gathered he was an atheist~
I've ID'd as agnostic for years here.

Agnostics can be nasty ****s, too, you know.

I'm an agnostic who wants to burn down the church.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:00 PM   #66
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Just based on some of his anti-religious rants over the years, I'm guessing he doesn't quite understand the difference between "atheist" and "agnostic".
An agnostic has a good reason to be substantially more bitter about religion than an atheist would. I'm not saying that that will always be the case, but witnessing several religious institutions bastardize beliefs that you may hold isn't exactly encouraging to polite behavior.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:02 PM   #67
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I've ID'd as agnostic for years here.

Agnostics can be nasty ****s, too, you know.

I'm an agnostic who wants to burn down the church.
Which church and why?
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:03 PM   #68
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I've ID'd as agnostic for years here.

Agnostics can be nasty ****s, too, you know.

I'm an agnostic who wants to burn down the church.
You have, on several occasions, denied the existing of a supreme deity. That's an atheist.

You may profess to be an Agnostic but your words betray that notion quite often.

Furthermore, "nasty" Agnostics are a completely 20th century concoction.

Agnostics not only acknowledge that the existence of God is uncertain or unknowable, they REFRAIN from committing to any particular religious bent.

Your attacks on organized religion are, in and of themselves, a religious point of view.

You're an atheist, whether you want to admit it or not.

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Old 02-13-2013, 06:04 PM   #69
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An agnostic has a good reason to be substantially more bitter about religion than an atheist would. I'm not saying that that will always be the case, but witnessing several religious institutions bastardize beliefs that you may hold isn't exactly encouraging to polite behavior.
A true Agnostic is above those kinds of things.

It's Agnosticism itself that has been bastardized.

The ancient Greeks are rolling over in their graves right now.

EDIT: Assuming of course, they weren't burned in effigy when they died.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:05 PM   #70
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You have, on several occasions, denied the existing of a supreme deity. That's an atheist.
I deny the existence of the Christian God. It's a stupid, silly belief for grandmothers.

I accept the possibility of a higher being in some form.

Does that clear that up for you?
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Which church and why?
All of them, **** it.

Nuke it from orbit, only way to be sure.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:06 PM   #72
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I deny the existence of the Christian God. It's a stupid, silly belief for grandmothers.

I accept the possibility of a higher being in some form.

Does that clear that up for you?
It's always been clear for me.

As you grow older, it will become more clear for you as well.
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It's always been clear for me.

As you grow older, it will become more clear for you as well.
Well, whatever.

Labels are silly.

But if I have to use one, it's agnostic. There's far too much shit about the universe we don't understand.

Either way I'm limiting my worship to football players and 'Hamas' Jenkins.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:14 PM   #74
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Well, whatever.

Labels are silly.

But if I have to use one, it's agnostic. There's far too much shit about the universe we don't understand.

Either way I'm limiting my worship to football players and 'Hamas' Jenkins.
I'm really just messing with you.

I too would consider myself an Agnostic.

That's why I would never say something as ostentatious as "I deny the existence of the Christian God. It's a stupid, silly belief for grandmothers."

As an Agnostic, I have accepted the fact that I simply cannot know everything there is to know about the universe, therefore all ideas have merit.

In the end, why is the existence of the Christian God any more silly than the existence of Allah, or Vishnu, or Zoroaster?

It sounds to me like your problem is with PEOPLE, not with God.
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A true Agnostic is above those kinds of things.

It's Agnosticism itself that has been bastardized.

The ancient Greeks are rolling over in their graves right now.

EDIT: Assuming of course, they weren't burned in effigy when they died.
Not really. Certain concepts are preached by religious institutions and intertwined with their dogma. So much so that I have encountered many, many people who seem to believe that without God a person can't have morals/values/ethics, for instance. This concept can lead to the belief that coerced conversion is acceptable or even to be admired. That's just one example off the top of my head.
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