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Old 02-12-2013, 08:54 AM  
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For people who live around/have traveled to U.S.-Mexican border

Is it safe to say that, from the perspective of a Midwesterner or a New York/East Coaster, it does not look like America?

I've never been there. But that's my impression.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:16 PM   #31
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Well, yes...but it's so much more than that. It's just surreal.

In the district where the bus drops you off, there is literally a donkey spray painted with stripes to look like a zebra, and the handler tries to get people to pay to take their picture with it. This is so common that the little bus depot actually has a stained glass picture of a striped donkey in it.

Every 50 feet, someone is standing on the side of the road blowing a whistle trying to get people into their shops. Every street has the same thing...a bar...a strip club (think YOUNG girls and donkey shows), a trinket shop with fake garbage, and a "pharmacy" full of whatever the **** you want. Some of the pharmacies are just little shit shacks, and some actually look pretty legit. All of them have a dude with a whistle outside offering to sell you whatever pills your little heart desires.

It's like an acid trip come to life.
Dont leave out the food carts, open front bar/food joints with clouds of flies, the happy music, the place selling vanilla, and the serape places. Its like a party 24/7
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:19 PM   #32
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Well, yes...but it's so much more than that. It's just surreal.

In the district where the bus drops you off, there is literally a donkey spray painted with stripes to look like a zebra on every single street corner, and the handler tries to get people to pay to take their picture with it. We're talking about little gray or brown donkey with a few krylon stripes on the sides. This is so common that the little bus depot actually has a stained glass picture of a striped donkey in it.

Every 50 feet, someone is standing on the side of the road blowing a whistle trying to get people into their shops. Every street has the same thing...a bar...a strip club (think YOUNG girls and donkey shows), a trinket shop with fake garbage, and a "pharmacy" full of whatever the **** you want. Some of the pharmacies are just little shit shacks, and some actually look pretty legit. All of them have a dude with a whistle outside offering to sell you whatever pills your little heart desires.

It's like an acid trip come to life.
When was the last time you were there, and why did you go?
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:31 PM   #33
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From what I understand thousands of people from Mexico cross over into El Paso every day to go to work or college.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:32 PM   #34
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From what I understand thousands of people from Mexico cross over into El Paso every day to go to work or college.
That's what I've read, too. I wonder if there are many who live in El Paso and go to work in Juarez.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:38 PM   #35
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That's what I've read, too. I wonder if there are many who live in El Paso and go to work in Juarez.

If we were sitting in a bar together just shooting the breeze, and you told me that you were thinking of visiting a Mexican border town, I would try to talk you out of it for your own safety.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:41 PM   #36
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When was the last time you were there, and why did you go?
It's been 10 years, and I went for fun. Some buddies and I went on vacation to San Diego and took a trip to TJ for the day. It was pretty shady back then, but it wasn't anything we couldn't handle. I don't know that I would go today without a group of guys...maybe not even at all.

It was a blast, though.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:42 PM   #37
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I have crossed many times with cattle buyers 7-10 years ago at Columbus, Santa Teresa, and Eagle Pass.


Every time was the same. Very nice, very clean US, as soon as we crossed the border there was solid trash and garbage everywhere.

I will never go back to Mexico. It's a shithole.


I flew a cattle guy to Nogales a few times. The helicopter pilots for the border patrol wear full body armor. It's insane.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:43 PM   #38
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That's what I've read, too. I wonder if there are many who live in El Paso and go to work in Juarez.
Probably not many, but Juarez is a MUCH bigger city than EP (nearly triple), so I'm sure there's some.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:44 PM   #39
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I doubt too many go the other way daily. The show I watched (some PBS show I think called the Daytripper) showed the people from Mexico coming through and they asked them about the process. They said that it could be 5 minutes or an hour to get through. I can't imagine that kind of hassle would be worth it for many jobs on the Mexican side. Even if it's easier for Americans it's probably still not too convenient.
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Old 02-12-2013, 01:45 PM   #40
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Probably not many, but Juarez is a MUCH bigger city than EP (nearly triple), so I'm sure there's some.
I've flown over El Paso at night, and it's looks like it is 4 times larger than Juarez.


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Old 02-12-2013, 01:46 PM   #41
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I spent some time in Del Rio Texas two or three years ago. It was interesting because everyone was extremely focused on what was going on to the immediate south. People there carried guns like we carry wallets/purses. Every adult carried at all times. It was just a given.
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Old 02-12-2013, 02:16 PM   #42
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I was in EP,TX in late October. It's a dump. I didn't go across the border just drove within binocular range of Juarez and looked over the place.

It's an incredible dump. EP,TX is a dump also. But holy shit Juarez looks like one huge slum.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:05 PM   #43
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I was in EP,TX in late October. It's a dump. I didn't go across the border just drove within binocular range of Juarez and looked over the place.

It's an incredible dump. EP,TX is a dump also. But holy shit Juarez looks like one huge slum.
An American dump is a first world dump. A Mexican border town is something different altogether.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:27 PM   #44
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I cross on 85 in AZ at the Lukeville/Sonoyta crossing a couple times a year, looks the same to me. Of course you drive through a wildlife refuge full of cactus and dirt on the US side to get there so it just kind of transitions into Mexico. Once in Mexico, there is a lot more Isuzu Amigo's and Toyota MasterAce's driving around than you'll find in the States.
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Old 02-12-2013, 03:32 PM   #45
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