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Old 02-12-2013, 08:45 AM  
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The GOP's Obama Litmus Test, Vol. II

A week or two ago I pointed out some polling that proved the GOP's has abandoned ideological consistency for (at least) the duration of the Obama Presidency. Not of the Republicans in office (though I include them), but the folks themselves who call themselves Republicans:

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This isn't hyperpartisanship. It's mere competition.

It's not based on principle. It's a determination that what's best for America is what's best for the Republican Party.

Republicans/conservatives over the course of the past four years convinced themselves that Obama's the goddamn devil, and that everything he suggests must be poisonous. Even if it was something they believe in up to the moment Obama suggests we try it.

The Republican Party and conservativism as a whole has embraced the Obama Litmus Test: if Obama wants it, it must be opposed whether it's bad or not.
That thread was based on polling that showed Republicans shriveling away from supporting gun control measures the second they heard Obama's name attached.

Well, the evidence continues to pile on:

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If President Obama wants immigration reform that includes a path to citizenship for undocumented workers, he may not want to mention it at all in tonight’s State of the Union speech, a new Washington Post poll suggests.

Seven in 10 people in the survey said they would support a path to citizenship, including 60 percent of Republicans. But when the same question was asked of a separate sample of respondents, this time with Obama’s name attached to it, support dropped to 59 percent overall and just 39 percent among Republicans.
This is far from normal. When you include everybody polled, not just Republicans, legislation usually becomes more favorable when you attach Obama's name:



Gee, I wonder why Americans consider the GOP to be so ****ing extreme?

So continues a party adrift. A true Party of No, due to the fact that it has no idea where it stands on any issue, other than to decide to vehemently disagree with whatever the other side of the aisle decides to care about.

Re-****ing-diculous.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:52 AM   #2
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:54 AM   #3
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I don't disagree with you. But your data shows that it works the other way too. And that is my anecdotal experience. I'm pretty liberal and most of my friends and colleagues are liberal. Now that Obama is using drone strikes and reupping the PATRIOT ACT and FISA Courts, and getting militarily involved in various countries in northern Africa and the Middle East, most of my friends support those policies or just pretend they don't exist. When Bush did that stuff we were talking about dictatorship.

It seems to be a phenomenon that whenever your guy wins, you project what you want that person to be onto them, ignore evidence to the contrary, and trust him to overstep his power.

Plenty of Republicans loved it when Bush was powergrabbing like a douche. Now there is idle chatter of rebellion for the same stuff.

Only the losers are suspicious. And that is a problem.
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Old 02-12-2013, 11:43 AM   #5
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The problem with your theory is that it's so superficial. What is a "path to citizenship"? It could be a lot of things and, as they say, the devil is in the details. It's logicially consistent to be in favor of the idea of a "path to citizenship" as long as people you trust are designing it but to oppose it when people with values you know you disagree with are designing it.

A good example of this can be seen in Obamacare. Liberals like to claim that Obamacare along with it's mandates is essentially the same plan that Republicans embraced when Heritage proposed it during the 90s. Obamacare certainly uses some of the concepts from that plan, but can anyone say with a straight face that if Republicans were implementing the Heritage plan, the US Catholic Bishops would be protesting in the name of religious liberty? Of course not.
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