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Old 02-12-2013, 07:16 PM  
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Obama wants to raise minimum wage to NINE DOLLARS AN HOUR



@RyanLizza: Obama will call for raising the federal minimum wage to $9.00/hour.
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Old 02-14-2013, 01:51 PM   #301
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I reject the idea that workers are ever paid less than they are worth.
Then explain the Gilded Age.
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Old 02-14-2013, 02:14 PM   #302
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Then explain the Gilded Age.
false sense of worth?
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Old 02-14-2013, 03:53 PM   #303
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There's a simple economic law out there: you're paid what you're worth. Period. If you want to make more, become more economically valuable to your employer. I'm surprised people still haven't figured this out. If you think it's unfair Dwayne Bowe gets paid $10million, then just become an NFL receiver and produce for your employer like Bowe does and they'll pay you the same amount.


One could make a good argument about breaking up the ownership of capital, so there is less concentration of capital in the hands of the few. That makes sense. That's what America did earlier 20th century with anti-monoploy laws. But the idea you're not getting paid what your worth? Silly. Go to another employer and ask for more money. He might or might not pay you it. And if he doesn't, it sure's hell ain't because he's in cahoots with the other 20,000 businesses around KC to depress wages. There is no conspiracy.
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Old 02-14-2013, 03:56 PM   #304
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There's a simple economic law out there: you're paid what you're worth. Period. If you want to make more, become more economically valuable to your employer. I'm surprised people still haven't figured this out. If you think it's unfair Dwayne Bowe gets paid $10million, then just become an NFL receiver and produce for your employer like Bowe does and they'll pay you the same amount.


One could make a good argument about breaking up the ownership of capital, so there is less concentration of capital in the hands of the few. That makes sense. That's what America did earlier 20th century with anti-monoploy laws. But the idea you're not getting paid what your worth? Silly. Go to another employer and ask for more money. He might or might not pay you it. And if he doesn't, it sure's hell ain't because he's in cahoots with the other 20,000 businesses around KC to depress wages. There is no conspiracy.


Yeah, because anybody could become a pro athlete if they just worked hard enough.
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:27 PM   #305
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Yeah, because anybody could become a pro athlete if they just worked hard enough.
same lame argument. We want everyone to be rich. Everyone doesn't get to be rich. It just a pipe dream sold to the gullible public.
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I believe Hitler hated Jews and had a lot of them killed. I dont believe it was anywhere close to 6 million though. I'm not an anti-semite; I just think that number has been severely inflated and there is a lot of evidence that supports this belief.
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:30 PM   #306
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Has anyone seen any numbers predicting what raising the wage will do towards the unemployment rate, food stamps, medicaid, etc?
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Old 02-14-2013, 04:55 PM   #307
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Has anyone seen any numbers predicting what raising the wage will do towards the unemployment rate, food stamps, medicaid, etc?
Been discussed in here. Short term increase in all those areas, long term decrease in people using those tax payer services.

Meanwhile we provide taxpayer subsidy to companies paying the lowest wage legally possible.
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I believe Hitler hated Jews and had a lot of them killed. I dont believe it was anywhere close to 6 million though. I'm not an anti-semite; I just think that number has been severely inflated and there is a lot of evidence that supports this belief.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:06 PM   #308
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same lame argument. We want everyone to be rich. Everyone doesn't get to be rich. It just a pipe dream sold to the gullible public.
Anyone that lives a middle class suburban life in the US is rich compared to at least half the world.

What's generally being sold to a gullible public by Democrats is that people with 2 cars, AC, a house, an iphone, who eat out at Applebees twice a months are somehow, "struggling" and that they're getting a raw deal.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:07 PM   #309
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I disagree with that outcome.

Why you ask?
Because inflation will adjust the cost of living so that the $9/hr people are living in the same standards they are right now, due to increased cost of everything else in a chain reaction.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:10 PM   #310
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Anyone that lives a middle class suburban life in the US is rich compared to at least half the world.
that is a truism and the most intelligent post I've ever seen from you.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:17 PM   #311
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that is a truism and the most intelligent post I've ever seen from you.
I don't feel like you're that intelligent, so that doesn't really move the meter for me. I don't think most people here think you're very smart. You might be sort of jovial in person, or whatever, but if people here rated intelligent posters you wouldn't be anywhere near the top, for anyone.
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Old 02-14-2013, 06:51 PM   #312
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I don't feel like you're that intelligent, so that doesn't really move the meter for me. I don't think most people here think you're very smart. You might be sort of jovial in person, or whatever, but if people here rated intelligent posters you wouldn't be anywhere near the top, for anyone.
You seem to have taken my previous post seriously. for that I'm sorry. I was trolling and poking you for your continuing unprovoked assholish behavior.

Since when did we start talking about my intelligence level? Is that important to the discussion in this thread or this board?

Is there some kind of Chiefs Planet mensa test to post in the DC forum? Is there a Intelligence improvement class I can take? A vitamin to improve my puny intellectual heft? Or am I such a failure in life that I should just end it?

Feel free to answer but I'm no longer going to response to your posts. It's just a huge waste of time, takes away from my time watching honey boo-boo.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:44 PM   #313
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Then explain the Gilded Age.
Is there a specific aspect that you're asking me to address briefly or are you suggesting that I should write a book on the entire age? I'm not necessarily opposed, but we'd have to come to an agreement on compensation first.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:48 PM   #314
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Is there a specific aspect that you're asking me to address briefly or are you suggesting that I should write a book on the entire age? I'm not necessarily opposed, but we'd have to come to an agreement on compensation first.
Why would you need to come to a deal over compensation? You'll get paid what you're worth. Always happens.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:51 PM   #315
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Why would you need to come to a deal over compensation? You'll get paid what you're worth. Always happens.
I have to decide whether I want to trade my time for the money offered. It requires agreement except when slavery is an option.
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