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Old 02-21-2013, 09:12 PM  
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Nick Foles News

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/2/2...-eagles-chiefs

The Kansas City Chiefs still don't have a reliable starting quarterback for the 2013 season, a glaring issue that will assuredly be addressed in the coming months. One possibility for Andy Reid and his new team could be to bring in the quarterback he drafted last year out of Arizona, and as Chris Mortensen sees it, the Chiefs would have to give up at least a third-round pick to do so.

For more on the Chiefs offseason, head over to Arrowhead Pride.

Mortensen said on ESPN's "NFL 32" a third-rounder would probably be the going rate to acquire Foles. He seems to believe Kansas City is inclined to head to the bargaining table for the 24-year-old passer.

Clearly the connection between Reid and Foles would be a starting point to these negotiations. He drafted Foles in Round 3 of the 2012 NFL Draft, ultimately supplanting Michael Vick with the rookie quarterback later in the season.

If the Chiefs find a way to bring in Foles, retain Dwayne Bowe and use their No. 1 pick in April for another valuable commodity like Luke Joeckel, we might actually see the beginning of a decent offensive display. Kansas City has plenty of work ahead this offseason.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:40 PM   #136
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Rather take a gamble on Foles and draft a Qb mid round. We know what Alex smiths ceiling is...we don't know what Foles' is...
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:41 PM   #137
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How so? If they trade for smith I think they draft either Bray, Manuel, or Jones. We now know Cassel is gone I doubt they bring in another vet to backup Alex Smith. The only question is what round do they draft a QB?

To me Alex Smith for a 4th is great if Geno Smith is the #1 pick. We know the odds of a 4th round QB producing like Alex Smith arent great.
Bray and Manuel are both probably 2 years away from being fully ready, so Smith is gonna start at least those 2 years. (Jones won't ever be NFL ready so he's not worth discussing.)

IF they were to get Smith for a 4th, he would probably be the backup. I don't see that happening though.

I see him coming in here and starting. He'll win just enough for them to keep trotting him out there. 4 years from now, we'll be right back where we are today.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:42 PM   #138
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I dont think this is a fair statement to make. For starters Foles has more upside. If they trade for Foles and draft a Qb in the draft its different. If they hit on free agents and draft picks its different too.
Thats the thing, if they trade for Foles, they likely won't draft a Qb in this years draft.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:42 PM   #139
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Rather take a gamble on Foles and draft a Qb mid round. We know what Alex smiths ceiling is...we don't know what Foles' is...
This.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:42 PM   #140
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Thats the thing, if they trade for Foles, they likely won't draft a Qb in this years draft.
And this.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:44 PM   #141
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Smith has stated that he wants to be traded to a team where he can start. He also will cost 8.5 mil, IIRC.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:45 PM   #142
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Thats the thing, if they trade for Foles, they likely won't draft a Qb in this years draft.
We dont know that.

Another thing: Reid always had capable QB's and always had guys who were capable on the bench. That is a huge contrast between Pioli and the new guys. Its important we dont overlook this.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:47 PM   #143
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We dont know that.

Another thing: Reid always had capable QB's and always had guys who were capable on the bench. That is a huge contrast between ***** and the new guys. Its important we dont overlook this.
It just wouldn't make sense, IMO. If Foles only costs a 4th? Maybe then, yeah. But if he costs a 2nd? He's probably the starter for a while.


Who did Reid have behind McNabb? I can't remember.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:47 PM   #144
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Bray and Manuel are both probably 2 years away from being fully ready, so Smith is gonna start at least those 2 years. (Jones won't ever be NFL ready so he's not worth discussing.)

IF they were to get Smith for a 4th, he would probably be the backup. I don't see that happening though.

I see him coming in here and starting. He'll win just enough for them to keep trotting him out there. 4 years from now, we'll be right back where we are today.
I dont know man both should sit this year but I could see either starting the next year. I think they are ahead of where Kaprrnick was coming out of college.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:51 PM   #145
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It just wouldn't make sense, IMO. If Foles only costs a 4th? Maybe then, yeah. But if he costs a 2nd? He's probably the starter for a while.


Who did Reid have behind McNabb? I can't remember.
I dont think theyll trade a high pick for either Foles or Smith.

2006 Garcia revived his career under Reid.

2009 Kolb had a career year.

2010 Vick was a league MVP candidate

Its an important distinction to point out. Reid didn't draft some 6th round guy and get lucky. The guy knows QB's
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:51 PM   #146
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I dont think theyll trade a high pick for either Foles or Smith.

2006 Garcia revived his career under Reid.

2009 Kolb had a career year.

2010 Vick was a league MVP candidate

Its an important distinction to point out. Reid didn't draft some 6th round guy and get lucky. The guy knows QB's
Yeah, it is exciting.

Although, his best QB came from early in the first round.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:55 PM   #148
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We dont know that.

Another thing: Reid always had capable QB's and always had guys who were capable on the bench. That is a huge contrast between ***** and the new guys. Its important we dont overlook this.
Can you really say that?

Somebody posted it the other day.

If you take Donovan McNabb out of the mix, Reid's QB track record is pretty pedestrian.

Yeah, he's good at making mediocre guys look decent.

But outside of McNabb, he really hasn't coached a GREAT QB.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:56 PM   #149
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I dont know man both should sit this year but I could see either starting the next year. I think they are ahead of where Kaprrnick was coming out of college.
The problem is that this is the Chiefs. We've seen this before.

He comes in here next year and wins 9 games and it won't matter when those guys are ready. They're gonna sit.

I have ZERO faith that anything in KC is EVER going to change until it actually does.
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Can you really say that?

Somebody posted it the other day.

If you take Donovan McNabb out of the mix, Reid's QB track record is pretty pedestrian.

Yeah, he's good at making mediocre guys look decent.

But outside of McNabb, he really hasn't coached a GREAT QB.
Not. this. again.
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