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Old 02-22-2013, 08:37 AM  
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Poilian says no QB worthy of #1. Chiefs can find one later





Former Colts GM Polian says Chiefs can find a QB in the draft

— In Bill Polian’s long career as an NFL general manager, his team had the number-one pick in the draft just once. That was in 1998, when he was with Indianapolis, and the Colts that year selected a quarterback, Peyton Manning.


That worked out well for Polian and the Colts. But Polian said he doesn’t think the Chiefs should draft a quarterback with this year’s first pick, even though they would like an upgrade over Matt Cassel. Like many assessing this year’s draft, Polian said there’s not a quarterback worthy of being the number-one selection.

“Just because there’s not a quarterback that everybody now doesn’t think is worth the number-one pick doesn’t mean you can’t get a quarterback,” Polian said. “Nobody thought Russell Wilson was worth a third-round pick except a couple of us. He turned out to be a pretty good quarterback.

“You always go for the best player. It’s foolish to go for need and (Chiefs coach Andy Reid) won’t do that.”

While Reid coached in Philadelphia, the Eagles at least a couple of times found quarterbacks after the first round who eventually became starters, including Kevin Kolb and Nick Foles.

“Nobody develops quarterbacks better than Andy Reid,” Polian said. “So rest assured, you’ve got the right guy. Whatever decision he makes will be the right one. He’ll find a quarterback. It doesn’t need to be the first guy in the draft.”
Other than to stay away from quarterbacks, Polian had no advice for the Chiefs with the first pick.

“Ask Andy,” he said. “They know their personnel far better than I do and they know what they need.”



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Old 02-22-2013, 09:26 AM   #31
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They just need to know where to get their guy.

Teams do this often.

Ravens traded up for Flacco. 49ers traded up for Kaepernick. Seahawks were patient and let the draft play out for Wilson.
It only looks like teams were prescient on acquiring those QBs because they actually acquired them. What about all the other teams that wanted Flacco, Kaepernick, and Wilson? They clearly didn't know where those QBs should be appropriately drafted, and as a result they missed out.

And stop saying Russell Wilson was this pre-meditated action by the Seahawks going into the draft. They DID NOT ****ING SAY, "Okay guys, Russell Wilson is the QB we want, so let's just play it cool in the 1st and 2nd rounds and see how the picks lay out, then we'll go get him around the 3rd round just to be safe. It's where he's supposed to be drafted."

In fact, it's well-known that Pete Carroll and most of the scouts thought Wilson was a giant waste of a 3rd rounder. That was an instance of John Schneider overriding everybody in the room and picking the QB anyway. HE WAS NOT A PLAN, and Seattle had no ****ing clue where he would go coming into the draft.

Just shut your ****ing face, please.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:27 AM   #32
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It's not end of story. He coached up Kolb, and then Kolb gets hurt. Vick lights it up, they pay him to be the franchise QB. Then they trade Kolb b/c they can't afford 2 franchise QBs.
Kolb was never a franchise QB.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:29 AM   #33
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Kolb was never a franchise QB.
Exactly. Kolb was playing like shit in that first game. after the McNabb trade. Reid should consider himself very lucky that he got injured so quickly and Vick came in.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:32 AM   #34
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Yeah, Andy really "developed" Kolb.

Developed him into a career 59% passer with a 28:25 TD:INT ratio and a 79 QBR.

That just SCREAMS franchise QB.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:35 AM   #35
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It only looks like teams were prescient on acquiring those QBs because they actually acquired them. What about all the other teams that wanted Flacco, Kaepernick, and Wilson? They clearly didn't know where those QBs should be appropriately drafted, and as a result they missed out.

And stop saying Russell Wilson was this pre-meditated action by the Seahawks going into the draft. They DID NOT ****ING SAY, "Okay guys, Russell Wilson is the QB we want, so let's just play it cool in the 1st and 2nd rounds and see how the picks lay out, then we'll go get him around the 3rd round just to be safe. It's where he's supposed to be drafted."

In fact, it's well-known that Pete Carroll and most of the scouts thought Wilson was a giant waste of a 3rd rounder. That was an instance of John Schneider overriding everybody in the room and picking the QB anyway. HE WAS NOT A PLAN, and Seattle had no ****ing clue where he would go coming into the draft.

Just shut your ****ing face, please.
And here is where you're proven wrong.



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John Schneider had a love affair with him and Mortensen even knew the Seahawks would draft him. If you don't think it was their GM's "plan" to pick him, then you aren't paying attention.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:36 AM   #36
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And here is where you're proven wrong.



3:35

John Schneider had a love affair with him and Mortensen even knew the Seahawks would draft him. If you don't think it was their GM's "plan" to pick him, then you aren't paying attention.
He just said that in his defense.


However if you wanna hung the qb position on finding the next russel Wilson, I'm not sure that's the best idea
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:37 AM   #37
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Kolb was never a franchise QB.
That's not true at all. He was the future of the Eagles in 2010. He started the first game and got hurt. Vick played weeks 2-4 and then they brought Kolb back in. He started until week 9, when he w againas then injured. Week 10 was the week Vick absolutely destroyed the Redskins, and then Vick never let go of the job.

Spare me the "he was never a franchise QB" because that was exactly what Philly had planned for him. He just got unlucky with injuries and the next guy up made the most of his opportunity. Just like Alex Smith/Kaepernick.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:38 AM   #38
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John Schneider had a love affair with him and Mortensen even knew the Seahawks would draft him. If you don't think it was their GM's "plan" to pick him, then you aren't paying attention.
If they loved him so bad, why didnt they pick him earlier?
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If they loved him so bad, why didnt they pick him earlier?
They had just signed Flynn, which made them able to take a risk and see what happened.


IMO we don't exactly have that option right now
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It feels to me that since the "experts" can't come to an agreement on a sure fire lock at QB, they just say there isn't a good one because they would rather see a guy like Geno fall and he turn out good, than sell people on Geno and he be bad, which in turn makes them look bad.

This has more to do with being risk adverse than anything else.
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John Schneider had a love affair with him and Mortensen even knew the Seahawks would draft him. If you don't think it was their GM's "plan" to pick him, then you aren't paying attention.
You're not paying attention you ****ing moron.

HOW MANY OTHER TEAMS HAD THE "PLAN" OF PICKING HIM?

It doesn't matter if you like a guy and have him circled on your board. Even Scott ****ing Pioli does that. No team knows when a player "should" get drafted. If Schneider legitimately thought that Wilson was HIS QB and the guy that he HAD to get, he would have drafted him a lot earlier, because NOBODY ****ING KNOWS WHAT THE HELL IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE DRAFT.

I just ****ing SAID in my last post that Schneider liked Russell Wilson a lot. It was the other guys in the room who didn't want to take him with that pick. That's far from a consensus team plan to wait things out and take Wilson "where he belongs"

You can't be this dumb.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:41 AM   #42
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You're not paying attention you ****ing moron.

HOW MANY OTHER TEAMS HAD THE "PLAN" OF PICKING HIM?

It doesn't matter if you like a guy and have him circled on your board. Even Scott ****ing ***** does that. No team knows when a player "should" get drafted. If Schneider legitimately thought that Wilson was HIS QB and the guy that he HAD to get, he would have drafted him a lot earlier, because NOBODY ****ING KNOWS WHAT THE HELL IS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE DRAFT.

I just ****ing SAID in my last post that Schneider liked Russell Wilson a lot. It was the other guys in the room who didn't want to take him with that pick. That's far from a consensus team plan to wait things out and take Wilson "where he belongs"

You can't be this dumb.
Obviously you haven't read many of his posts.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:42 AM   #44
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Didnt we also request an interview with geno today?
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:43 AM   #45
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I want a great QB in KC as bad as anyone.

That said, if the talent evaluations for this team show that these guys aren't top 10 talent, I'm OK taking another position with the #1. Honestly, in that case, if there isn't a #1QB, I hope they can trade down and pick up an extra 2nd or 1 next year.

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