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Old 02-24-2013, 03:56 PM  
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The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively DONE

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The 49ers have expressed to others that a deal for QB Alex Smith is effectively complete. Can't be finalized til league year begins 3/12


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so it's not official, both clubs view it at as it's effectively done. I do not know the other team. KC and JAX are 2 teams that make sense
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:35 PM   #2236
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Alex may not be an explosive QB that everyone wants
You think?

I really don't buy that we are any MORE doomed in your scenario 1 , than your scenario 2.

Scenario 1) we keep albert, bowe and roll the dice on a QB with pick #1...or trade the #1 down for an extra pick and STILL get a QB (bray, barkley, geno etc....)

Scenario 2) we sign smith, let bowe or albert go, then have to get a LT or WR with the #1...


Your question (valid, i grant you) is "arent you DOO00000000MED if the QB fails in scenario 1?

Answer: sure

But, what you dont acknowledge is that WE ARE EVEN MORE DOOMED if scenario 2 fails.....as there are even more unknowns in that scenario.....Alex smith could fail, easily. The LT or WR we draft at 1 could fail....etc....both could fail........

I understand that on paper a 'sure thing' LT is less risky than a QB who is a slight reach, but there are more moving parts in the alex smith scenario......

AND FURTHERMORE you fail to analyze something hugely important:

The up-side

Whats the best case in your scenario? A playoff win in a couple years when Alex is in his 10-11th season?

Sorry, but even IF it is slightly more risky, im gonna go all in on scenario #1, with a way bigger up-side....as the ultimate goal is a ring. So we swing and miss, then we come back next season and swing again.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:35 PM   #2237
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Well it is the Chiefs, not trying to be a prick here but if they want to continue to be a mediocre team than I'm all for them wanting Matt Flynn. Geno could be a great player down the road, but again, can anyone name the last time a running Qb won a Superbowl? Steve Young in 94? Look at the last 10 Super Bowls, conventional QB's. Look at the final 4 teams? Ryan-conventional, Brady-Conventional, Flaaco-conventional, Kaep runner/great arm struggles in the redzone and throwing certain passes. Things conventional QB's are good at.

They should change it to the National Fantasy League cause that is more important than winning I guess. People don't want to win anymore they want excitement. I guess that makes sense, but I would rather win than have a guy throw 200 yards, manage an offense, get Charles involved with adjustments at the line than a 300 yards and 100 rushing and lose becauseA) dude is too young B) people too enamoured with an offense I feel will be dead in a year or two.

Conventional QB's are the way to go, unless you have a guy like Wilson, Kaep, or RG3. I'm sorry I don't see G. Smith being any one of those.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:36 PM   #2238
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All I can tell you is the Chiefs would love to trade Matt Cassel to a divsion rival.
...and that illustrates the difference between the way 49ers fans view Alex Smith and how Chiefs fans view Matt Cassel.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:36 PM   #2239
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But he's black! He has to be right?
Yep.

All black QBs are run-first.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:38 PM   #2240
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Eagles did it with McNabb ... @Crispee49: why would 49ers trade within their own division and face Smith twice?
rofl, because they know he ****ING SUCKS???!?!?!?
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:38 PM   #2241
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Yep.

All black QBs are run-first.
Just ask Byron Leftwich...

...wait...wha?
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:38 PM   #2242
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...and that illustrates the difference between the way 49ers fans view Alex Smith and how Chiefs fans view Matt Cassel.
Which is funny since they are the same guy.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:38 PM   #2243
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rofl, because they know he ****ING SUCKS???!?!?!?
Just because the Cards are interested doesn't mean that the 49ers are interested in sending him to Arizona.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:39 PM   #2244
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:39 PM   #2245
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Well it is the Chiefs, not trying to be a prick here but if they want to continue to be a mediocre team than I'm all for them wanting Matt Flynn. Geno could be a great player down the road, but again, can anyone name the last time a running Qb won a Superbowl? Steve Young in 94? Look at the last 10 Super Bowls, conventional QB's. Look at the final 4 teams? Ryan-conventional, Brady-Conventional, Flaaco-conventional, Kaep runner/great arm struggles in the redzone and throwing certain passes. Things conventional QB's are good at.

They should change it to the National Fantasy League cause that is more important than winning I guess. People don't want to win anymore they want excitement. I guess that makes sense, but I would rather win than have a guy throw 200 yards, manage an offense, get Charles involved with adjustments at the line than a 300 yards and 100 rushing and lose becauseA) dude is too young B) people too enamoured with an offense I feel will be dead in a year or two.

Conventional QB's are the way to go, unless you have a guy like Wilson, Kaep, or RG3. I'm sorry I don't see G. Smith being any one of those.
Good god. You're such a gigantic mongo, I don't even know where to begin.
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Which is funny since they are the same guy.
Right. No difference at all.

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Just because the Cards are interested doesn't mean that the 49ers are interested in sending him to Arizona.
Yeah, Arizona would be scary as shit with a game manager. It's the 2000 Ravens all over again
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Right. No difference at all.

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Well Cassel did actuall make the probowl so there is a little I guess.

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Just because the Cards are interested doesn't mean that the 49ers are interested in sending him to Arizona.
The 49er's should be ALL OVER trading Alex to the Cards.
It will make those 2 easy wins a year even easier.
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