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Old 02-27-2013, 10:17 AM  
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Stone Temple Pilots fire lead singer

STONE TEMPLE PILOTS
FIRE Lead Singer
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Stone Temple Pilots has unceremoniously FIRED its lead singer Scott Weiland ... who's been the face of the seminal rock band for 20 years.

The group released an ominously curt statement today, saying, "Stone Temple Pilots have announced they have officially terminated Scott Weiland." They don't give any further explanation.

It's pretty shocking for several reasons ... the main being Weiland has been a core member of the group since it came together in 1986. His voice has become synonymous with STP's sound ... on hits like "Plush," "Sour Girl," and "Sex Type Thing."

Another reason this came out of nowhere ... Weiland denied rumors he was leaving the band just yesterday, telling Rolling Stone, "STP has not broken up. I haven't quit. I haven't been fired."

Rumors of a split began a couple of months ago when Slash said STP had fired Weiland.

STP reformed in 2008 after a 5-year hiatus and toured through last year -- but apparently it hasn't been working out.

So far, it's unclear who STP has in mind to replace Weiland ... if anyone.

Weiland is set to launch a solo tour next month.


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Old 03-01-2013, 07:28 PM   #46
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Can you provide a good argument against?
Yeah. Their entire catalogue since then.
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:03 PM   #47
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How about the mere fact that Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magic sold about 7 million records? The subsequent records sold even more.

Is that a good enough argument?
Does not mean it was their best work. BSSM had some good music on it. Still think that MM was better.
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:12 PM   #48
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Does not mean it was their best work. BSSM had some good music on it. Still think that MM was better.
Isnt this a little different than saying "Mothers Milk was their last good album"?
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Old 03-03-2013, 08:54 AM   #49
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Isnt this a little different than saying "Mothers Milk was their last good album"?
IMO Mothers Milk was an overall a better album. Give it Away and Under the Bridge brought down BSSM down a few notches.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:00 AM   #50
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No, you're missing the point: Grunge had it's tiny window and it closed rather quickly. Yet, you can name bands from the 70's and 80's that are still out on the road, putting out albums and having tons of success.

Grunge was truly a fad.
Cobain knew it lol.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:02 AM   #51
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IMO Mothers Milk was an overall a better album. Give it Away and Under the Bridge brought down BSSM down a few notches.
I have no quarrel with you holding that opinion. What I am disagreeing with is this:

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RHCP last good album was Mothers Milk.
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Old 03-03-2013, 09:15 AM   #52
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Consistent with what, exactly? Guys dying from heroin overdoses? Changing drummers every other year? Changing guitarists every album?





U2 released their first album in 1980. Their heyday was during the 80's, not the 90's.

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Dude what?
Frusciante the guitarist was gone for 1 maybe two
albums and and was replaced with Navarro then came back.
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:58 PM   #53
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Dude what?
Frusciante the guitarist was gone for 1 maybe two
albums and and was replaced with Navarro then came back.
Hillel Slovak, Arik Marshall, Frusciante, Navarro, Jesse Tobias, DeWayne McKnight, Jack Sherman.
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:50 PM   #54
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RHCP last good album was Mothers Milk.
I loved Mother's Milk, but I thought BSSM was better.
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:12 PM   #55
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:13 PM   #56
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No, you're missing the point: Grunge had it's tiny window and it closed rather quickly. Yet, you can name bands from the 70's and 80's that are still out on the road, putting out albums and having tons of success.

Grunge was truly a fad.
That must be why Pearl Jam sold out Wrigley field in 45 minutes.
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That must be why Pearl Jam sold out Wrigley field in 45 minutes.
We're talking about the "movement" not one particular band
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That must be why Pearl Jam sold out Wrigley field in 45 minutes.
I have loved Pearl Jam from the beginning. I think the "grunge" label was always dumb. They are simply a great rock band. Are there people who still consider them grunge? Are there people who think grunge is a thing?
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Hillel Slovak, Arik Marshall, Frusciante, Navarro, Jesse Tobias, DeWayne McKnight, Jack Sherman.
to put this into context, Tobias, Marshall, and Blackbyrd didn't record with RHCP; they're were all in the band for a cumulative 15min, collectively.

Sherman replaced Slovak for the first album and tour while Slovak was in another band with Jackie I, so really it's like this :

Sherman : 1984
Slovak : 85-88
Frusciante : 88-92
Navarro : 93-97
Frusciante : 98-2010
Klinghoffer : 2010-??

that's 5 guitarists over 30 years.

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No, you're missing the point: Grunge had it's tiny window and it closed rather quickly. Yet, you can name bands from the 70's and 80's that are still out on the road, putting out albums and having tons of success.

Grunge was truly a fad.
'grunge' WAS a fad - only people at least a decade older than me even use that word in conjunction with any type of musical genre though; it described the way posers dressed in high school.

Fact is, the music of the so-called 'grunge' bands is pretty disparate. Jane's Addiction sounded nothing like Chili Peppers, who sounded nothing like Soundgarden, who sounded nothing like Smashing Pumpkins.

I don't know too many bands from the 70's and 80's who put out records that move huge numbers, except for U2 and RHCP. Elton John.

But a lot of the 70's/80's bands move tickets purely on nostalgia; they hit the baby boomer market hard - even going so far to scalp their own tickets to make sure they gougue their 'fans' for as much as they can.

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RHCP last good album was Mothers Milk.
they've had at least 3 great records since then.

Hell, I'm in the minority, but I'm a big One Hot Minute fan.

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I wish I could find my cover for the album but I'm betting I could count the songs credited with DuVall as a co-writer with 3 fingers or less.
Hey...Dane's in the industry, so that means his opinion on the subject is somehow more valid than anyone else's.
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Are there people who think grunge is a thing?
Only people in their fifties.

'Grunge' was laughable as soon as they started trotting that stupid ****ing word around.

No one my age used that word, unless we were making fun of old people.

'My aunt said 'grunge', hahahah!! Then I said I didn't want gravy on my mashed potatoes, and she said 'that's okay, you're 'alternative'. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!'

But no one who was in the moment ever went 'think I'll listen to some 'grunge' as they reach for the Mudhoney CD...ever.

Like, it was just rock music to us. There was no 'grunge movement' - all that shit's in hindsight. Geffen records was pushing Nirvana's Nevermind just as hard as they pushed GN'R and Aerosmith back then, played them all on the same radio stations. The compartmentalization within the industry didn't happen until later, after Nevermind went to number one and they realized the MARKET that was available.
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