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Old 02-27-2013, 10:59 AM  
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Alex Smith Traded to Chiefs

Well, it looks like the deal is done.



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49ers have completed a trade with the Chiefs for Alex Smith, tho can't be official til March 12. Chiefs really made a commitment to Smith


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Deal has been agreed upon between Chiefs and 49ers. Compensation unclear but I'm told again Chiefs have made a clear commitment to Smith.
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Old 03-03-2013, 04:52 PM   #2806
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What's better, taking a chance on an unknown QB with top end talent (Geno, undeniably), or going with a sure thing (Alex Smith) when it means 9-7?
it really depends on what you think Genos ceiling is. You called him top end. I'm guessing there are people, like Reid, that feel his ceiling isn't that high.
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Old 03-03-2013, 04:53 PM   #2807
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And Alex Smith is slightly above average. So answer these two questions and decide what to do.

Can Alex Smith win a Superbowl with his skill set? Answer = No

Can (fill in blank with whatever QB you think is best) win a Superbowl with his skill set? Answer = I have no ****ing idea!

So you draft best available guy, develop him and design a system around him. You already know the answer to question #1 so why take a lateral move when a higher reward option is available?
Why? Because the Chiefs apparently don't believe in any of the available college QB's ability to become a franchise QB in the NFL.

So, do you go into the season without a starting QB? Do you "hope" that Matt Moore can push your team to the playoffs? Or do you invest the #1 overall pick, knowing that it's unlikely to yield the results you want but do it anyway?
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Old 03-03-2013, 04:55 PM   #2808
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What's better, taking a chance on an unknown QB with top end talent (Geno, undeniably), or going with a sure thing (Alex Smith) when it means 9-7?
You go with Alex Smith and seven years of NFL play, design an offense around his skills and try for a playoff push.

A QB will be drafted and developed under Reid and Dorsey but he won't come from the first round in 2013.

You do NOT take a guy just to take a guy. That's ridiculous.
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Old 03-03-2013, 04:56 PM   #2809
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You do NOT take a guy just to take a guy. That's ridiculous.
That's not what you're doing by taking Geno. He's not just a "guy." He has sick ****ing talent.

He's absolutely worth a first round pick, and someone will take him in the top 10.
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Old 03-03-2013, 04:56 PM   #2810
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You go with Alex Smith and seven years of NFL play, design an offense around his skills and try for a playoff push.

A QB will be drafted and developed under Reid and Dorsey but he won't come from the first round in 2013.

You do NOT take a guy just to take a guy. That's ridiculous.
Why not take the best QB prospect the draft has to offer?
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Old 03-03-2013, 04:56 PM   #2811
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Dane this is the kind of crap that is applauded at the Jags Forum: And this is from a mod.

"This is clearly a year to draft a franchise offensive tackle. Two of the top three pro prospects are offensive tackles. The NFL Combine confirmed that NFL scouts at the Senior Bowl were exactly right about Eric Fisher. Post-Combine, Mayock believes that Eric Fisher may be the Chiefs choice, or at least the choice of a team trading for their top pick.

Nobody believes in Geno Smith any more. He skipped the Senior Bowl, perhaps to leave the impression that he was already in contract negotiations with Kansas City. The Chiefs deserve a lot of thanks for exposing Geno Smith, who was forced to admit he had NOT met with Kansas City front office people, or even met Andy Reid in interviews.

I like Joeckel or Fisher. Either player at the second over-all.

Let's stop trying to make Geno Smith into something he is not.
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This is exactly why I rarely post there.
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Old 03-03-2013, 04:57 PM   #2812
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That's not what you're doing by taking Geno. He's not just a "guy." He has sick ****ing talent.

He's absolutely worth a first round pick, and someone will take him in the top 10.
That's YOUR opinion.

Why can I not find a single person, whether it's a scout or people interviewed by Clark Judge or Pete Prisco or Peter King or ANY NFL writer, that agrees?
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Old 03-03-2013, 04:59 PM   #2813
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You go with Alex Smith and seven years of NFL play, design an offense around his skills and try for a playoff push.

A QB will be drafted and developed under Reid and Dorsey but he won't come from the first round in 2013.

You do NOT take a guy just to take a guy. That's ridiculous.
With Alex Smith injury history can you count on him the next 5 to 7 years?
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Old 03-03-2013, 04:59 PM   #2814
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That's YOUR opinion.

Why can I not find a single person, whether it's a scout or people interviewed by Clark Judge or Pete Prisco or Peter King or ANY NFL writer, that agrees?
What? There are plenty of people mocking Geno in the first round.
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Old 03-03-2013, 05:00 PM   #2815
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it really depends on what you think Genos ceiling is. You called him top end. I'm guessing there are people, like Reid, that feel his ceiling isn't that high.
He has top end TALENT. Physically, you couldn't ask for more in a QB, other than maybe a couple inches.

When assholes like Alex Smith get taken #1, Geno is certainly worthy of the pick.
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Old 03-03-2013, 05:00 PM   #2816
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Why not take the best QB prospect the draft has to offer?
QB's are not created equal, nor are they created in a laboratory, nor is their any guarantee that you can turn a mediocre player into a superstar by drafting him in the first round.

If the best QB in the draft has a ceiling of being a backup QB (as people have mentioned about Barkley), why would you spend a first round pick on him, let alone, #1 overall?

And why the **** does every mother****ing thread in this forum become about Geno Smith? It's ****ing stupid and exhausting.

The Chiefs aren't taking him: Deal with it.
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Old 03-03-2013, 05:02 PM   #2817
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That's YOUR opinion.

Why can I not find a single person, whether it's a scout or people interviewed by Clark Judge or Pete Prisco or Peter King or ANY NFL writer, that agrees?
Right, because the big time media guys never talk up mediocre QB options for teams every year. See Matt Flynn, Kevin Kolb and Matt Cassel just to name a few. For some reason media tends to undervalue young prospects but over-values re-treads in this league.
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I have a question. What black QB in Reid's offense never ran? Hint? The number of women I've slept with. I think Reid thinks Geno should run more since he's black. And since he doesn't, he automatically was disqualified. I bet yall take Manuel because he fits the bill that Reid expects.
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What? There are plenty of people mocking Geno in the first round.
Mocking him?

Those people are "mocking him" at #1 overall because the Chiefs had a need at QB, so they placed him with the Chiefs.

Mock drafts are not indicative of talent or ability. They're crossword puzzles that people like to "win".
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With Alex Smith injury history can you count on him the next 5 to 7 years?
The guy is gonna be 29 to start the season......

Given his history, you can be pretty darn sure he wont be on the roster in 5 years
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