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Old 10-31-2013, 02:07 PM   #8161
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Alex has shown the stones already as a chief to be extremely clutch though.

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Old 10-31-2013, 02:48 PM   #8162
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Look at the percentage of attempts. Alex throws fewer passes 20+ yards than ANY OTHER QB IN FOOTBALL. Gods.
THROWS OF 20-PLUS YARDS IN 2011 (includes playoff games)
(From Pro Football Focus)
AARON RODGERS, Packers (16 games): 129.1 QB rating
33 of 66, 1,264 yards, 14 TD, 1 INT
MATT SCHAUB, Texans (10 games): 125.3
14 of 37, 499 yards, 5 TD, 0 INT
TONY ROMO, Cowboys (16 games): 123.8
32 of 61, 1,166 yards, 13 TD, 2 INT
ALEX SMITH, 49ers (18 games): 111.4
21 of 51, 723 yards, 6 TD, 2 INT

MATTHEW STAFFORD, Lions (17 games): 107.8
34 of 83, 1,187, 12 TD, 4 INT
DREW BREES, Saints (18 games): 107.3
44 of 86, 1,187 yards, 20 TD, 6 INT
ELI MANNING, Giants (20 games): 103.2
49 of 123, 1,675 yards, 15 TD, 7 INT
CAM NEWTON, Panthers (16 games): 92.6
33 of 89, 1,149 yards, 7 TD, 4 INT
PHILIP RIVERS, Chargers (16 games): 91.4
28 of 75 935 yards, 12 TD, 6 INT
TOM BRADY, Patriots (19 games): 87.7
23 of 73, 746 yards, 10 TD, 4 INT
JOE FLACCO, Ravens (18 games): 81.8
25 of 88, 816 yards, 8 TD, 3 INT
BEN ROETHLISBERGER, Steelers (16 games): 77.5
24 of 75, 818 yards, 7 TD, 5 INT
MICHAEL VICK, Eagles (13 games): 77.2
24 of 58, 769 yards, 3 TD, 4 INT
JAY CUTLER, Bears (10 games): 77.0
14 of 37, 425 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT
MATTRYAN, Falcons (17 games): 69.3
16 of 63, 518 yards, 4 TD, 2 INT

Alex Smith threw 513 passes that year. So 1 out of 10 was a down-field pass.

Stafford every 8.5

Brady every 11.3
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Old 10-31-2013, 03:30 PM   #8163
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THROWS OF 20-PLUS YARDS IN 2011 (includes playoff games)
(From Pro Football Focus)
AARON RODGERS, Packers (16 games): 129.1 QB rating
33 of 66, 1,264 yards, 14 TD, 1 INT
MATT SCHAUB, Texans (10 games): 125.3
14 of 37, 499 yards, 5 TD, 0 INT
TONY ROMO, Cowboys (16 games): 123.8
32 of 61, 1,166 yards, 13 TD, 2 INT
ALEX SMITH, 49ers (18 games): 111.4
21 of 51, 723 yards, 6 TD, 2 INT

MATTHEW STAFFORD, Lions (17 games): 107.8
34 of 83, 1,187, 12 TD, 4 INT
DREW BREES, Saints (18 games): 107.3
44 of 86, 1,187 yards, 20 TD, 6 INT
ELI MANNING, Giants (20 games): 103.2
49 of 123, 1,675 yards, 15 TD, 7 INT
CAM NEWTON, Panthers (16 games): 92.6
33 of 89, 1,149 yards, 7 TD, 4 INT
PHILIP RIVERS, Chargers (16 games): 91.4
28 of 75 935 yards, 12 TD, 6 INT
TOM BRADY, Patriots (19 games): 87.7
23 of 73, 746 yards, 10 TD, 4 INT
JOE FLACCO, Ravens (18 games): 81.8
25 of 88, 816 yards, 8 TD, 3 INT
BEN ROETHLISBERGER, Steelers (16 games): 77.5
24 of 75, 818 yards, 7 TD, 5 INT
MICHAEL VICK, Eagles (13 games): 77.2
24 of 58, 769 yards, 3 TD, 4 INT
JAY CUTLER, Bears (10 games): 77.0
14 of 37, 425 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT
MATTRYAN, Falcons (17 games): 69.3
16 of 63, 518 yards, 4 TD, 2 INT

Alex Smith threw 513 passes that year. So 1 out of 10 was a down-field pass.

Stafford every 8.5

Brady every 11.3
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Old 10-31-2013, 03:45 PM   #8164
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Old 10-31-2013, 03:58 PM   #8165
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THROWS OF 20-PLUS YARDS IN 2011 (includes playoff games)
(From Pro Football Focus)
AARON RODGERS, Packers (16 games): 129.1 QB rating
33 of 66, 1,264 yards, 14 TD, 1 INT
MATT SCHAUB, Texans (10 games): 125.3
14 of 37, 499 yards, 5 TD, 0 INT
TONY ROMO, Cowboys (16 games): 123.8
32 of 61, 1,166 yards, 13 TD, 2 INT
ALEX SMITH, 49ers (18 games): 111.4
21 of 51, 723 yards, 6 TD, 2 INT

MATTHEW STAFFORD, Lions (17 games): 107.8
34 of 83, 1,187, 12 TD, 4 INT
DREW BREES, Saints (18 games): 107.3
44 of 86, 1,187 yards, 20 TD, 6 INT
ELI MANNING, Giants (20 games): 103.2
49 of 123, 1,675 yards, 15 TD, 7 INT
CAM NEWTON, Panthers (16 games): 92.6
33 of 89, 1,149 yards, 7 TD, 4 INT
PHILIP RIVERS, Chargers (16 games): 91.4
28 of 75 935 yards, 12 TD, 6 INT
TOM BRADY, Patriots (19 games): 87.7
23 of 73, 746 yards, 10 TD, 4 INT
JOE FLACCO, Ravens (18 games): 81.8
25 of 88, 816 yards, 8 TD, 3 INT
BEN ROETHLISBERGER, Steelers (16 games): 77.5
24 of 75, 818 yards, 7 TD, 5 INT
MICHAEL VICK, Eagles (13 games): 77.2
24 of 58, 769 yards, 3 TD, 4 INT
JAY CUTLER, Bears (10 games): 77.0
14 of 37, 425 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT
MATTRYAN, Falcons (17 games): 69.3
16 of 63, 518 yards, 4 TD, 2 INT

Alex Smith threw 513 passes that year. So 1 out of 10 was a down-field pass.

Stafford every 8.5

Brady every 11.3
Are those passes that traveled 20 yards in the air or passes that include YAC?
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Old 10-31-2013, 04:38 PM   #8166
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Are those passes that traveled 20 yards in the air or passes that include YAC?
That one must include yac.

Alex only threw 36 passes 20+ in 2011. His rating was similiar to what you saw there.

Tom Brady threw 47 (Interestingly Brady only had 1 completion over 31)

Stafford threw 63.
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Old 10-31-2013, 04:48 PM   #8167
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THROWS OF 20-PLUS YARDS IN 2011 (includes playoff games)

Alex Smith threw 513 passes that year. So 1 out of 10 was a down-field pass.
This is true. Alex's percentage of attempts that traveled 20+ yards in the air was 9.7 percent that year.

That ranked 28th in the league.

He also hit 17 of them. That's decent for Alex, since he's on pace for a whopping 12 this year.

Same shit, different year. Dude has no balls to make NFL throws.



Of course this year he is even worse. Literally at the BOTTOM of the league.

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Old 10-31-2013, 04:50 PM   #8168
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Are those passes that traveled 20 yards in the air or passes that include YAC?
Air.

The issue isn't not enough. After the training wheels offense early in the season defenses are leaning forward to cut into that yardage. Smith has pulled the trigger on single coverage, problem is he has missed the kill-shots.
Connecting on about 1 out of 4. Need to get closer to 50%.

If you are begging for more you are insane as long as Fisher is the RT. Smith taking the a deep drop and waiting 3 seconds for the WR to do a double move is a recipe for disaster.
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Air.

The issue isn't not enough. After the training wheels offense early in the season defenses are leaning forward to cut into that yardage. Smith has pulled the trigger on single coverage, problem is he has missed the kill-shots.
Connecting on about 1 out of 4. Need to get closer to 50%.

If you are begging for more you are insane as long as Fisher is the RT. Smith taking the a deep drop and waiting 3 seconds for the WR to do a double move is a recipe for disaster.
ESPN disagrees... 36 total attempts of 21+

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/splits...011/alex-smith


Unless there were a whole shit load of exactly 20 yard passes...which I doubt.

Clay's has a different number too..but it says deep passes...don't know how that was defined.
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This is true. Alex's percentage of attempts that traveled 20+ yards in the air was 9.7 percent that year.

That ranked 28th in the league.

He also hit 17 of them. That's decent for Alex, since he's on pace for a whopping 12 this year.

Same shit, different year. Dude has no balls to make NFL throws.



Of course this year he is even worse. Literally at the BOTTOM of the league.

Retrieve thy shinebox.
Look at all those studs at the top of those rankings. Wow

Cassel, Ponder, Grossman, Tebow, Matt Moore, Carson Palmer, Tarvaris Jackson...a veritable who's who of QBs.
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The issue isn't not enough.
Yes it is, even with the increase.

First 4 games: 5 attempts 20+

Last 4 games: 11 attempts 20+

2.75 attempts per game (11/4) is still not enough. Over a full season that works out to 44 attempts, which would have ranked 26th last year.
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This is true. Alex's percentage of attempts that traveled 20+ yards in the air was 9.7 percent that year.

That ranked 28th in the league.
The differnce between 8th and 28 was a whopping 4 percentage points.

OMG!

And OMG. Look at the gaggle of CRAPOLA QBs littering the top half of the CHUCK IT list.
You don't see how that CONTEXT makes you foolish?
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Look at all those studs at the top of those rankings. Wow

Cassel, Ponder, Grossman, Tebow, Matt Moore, Carson Palmer, Tarvaris Jackson...a veritable who's who of QBs.
Flip the chart by deep completions and the list gets shinier.

The top 11 QBs on the list are all studs, apart from Freeman and Flacco, who won the ****ing SB.



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The differnce between 8th and 28 was a whopping 4 percentage points.

OMG!

And OMG. Look at the gaggle of CRAPOLA QBs littering the top half of the CHUCK IT list.
You don't see how that CONTEXT makes you foolish?
That's irrelevant.

You cannot be dead last in the NFL in deep attempts and expect to field a playoff offense.
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