Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Ed & Dave Lounge

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-28-2013, 08:29 AM  
Mr. Flopnuts Mr. Flopnuts is offline
The People's Mod
 
Mr. Flopnuts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: The Capital
Casino cash: $58193
I'm going to make a lot of you ill with this thread

I wanted Geno Smith as much as anyone here. But I'm an it is what it is guy. So I started last night trying to find some kind of bright side to this whole fiasco. I've written the following piece, and am looking forward to being skewered for it.

Quote:
The Alex Smith Experiment

Let it be known, I was in mourning all day yesterday. I had hitched my wagons so tightly to Geno Smith or some other young, QB stud coming out of this year's draft class that I never could bring myself to believe that the brilliant Andy Reid, and John Dorsey would actually trade for Alex Smith. Then they did. And I was crushed. I whined, complained, and proclaimed I could no longer care about this team. But I was born and raised inside the walls of this Kingdom. I could never pack my bags and walk away.

So I started thinking about what all of this meant. The first thing that came to mind was that it was obvious our new leadership didn't see what I saw in this year's crop of field generals. They agreed with the majority of people out there saying there was very, very little to be excited about out of the QB's entering the NFL this year. It also occurred to me that they must have thought very highly of Alex Smith considering the compensation that is being rumored to be given up for him. And I wondered if all the work we put in with Save Our Chiefs last year was in vein.

I mean, we've seen this movie. Over, and over, and over again. This is the 5th 49er retread this franchise has brought in for us over the last 25 years. And the great Joe Montana was the only one that has provided us with a playoff win. So naturally my thought process was “Here we go again! New Chiefs, same as the old Chiefs!”

Then I started doing my homework and watching the last couple of years of Alex Smith. This is a what have you done for me lately league, so I wasn't really worried about his first few years in the league. Coaching changes year after year, and no real continuity was what greeted him to the league. Jim Harbaugh came in and 2011 Alex Smith made some instant strides. I saw some things out of him that have now convinced me that this time the sequel could be better than the original. Here are some reasons I believe Alex Smith can help lead us to the promised land.

1. Leadership. Probably the most important thing a QB has to have, and something that has lacked in KC for the last couple of years. 2012 was a huge indicator of that. The Chiefs didn't believe in their QB and their play reflected it. On both sides of the ball. Alex Smith didn't have a contract with the 49ers the year of the lockout. Yet it was widely reported he still got his hands on Jim Harbaugh's new playbook and organized practices with his teammates. They rallied around him, and the proof is in the pudding. A muffed punt away from the Super Bowl.

2. Clutch. He has it. Tons of it. The biggest indicator was in his first playoff game. Back and forth, and they fell behind with around a minute left in the game. Alex marched them down the field and on a 3rd and 3 with his team in field goal position, he made his best pass of the entire game to score the game winning TD. On the biggest stage of his life. His coach could've easily played it safe and went for over time, but he believed in Alex. And that belief paid off with a win.

3. Field awareness. I watched a lot of tape. When Alex got loose of the pocket and had to scramble, he knew where the first down marker was. I watched him twist, and turn. Take hits, and deliver hits to get to that first down marker. No fetal position from Alex Smith. He went for it. Consistantly.

4. Progressions. I watched him go through progressions when he needed too. I haven't seen a lot of Alex locking onto a guy and just winging it in there regardless of coverage. That said, I've also seen him wing that ball in between two defenders where only his guy can catch the ball. And there's enough strength in his throws that the ball is there before the defender can respond too it.

5. Coaching. It took an elite coach to get the very best out of Alex Smith. And when he received that, he excelled instantaneously. What better coach, or situation could Alex Smith go to right now and replicate that success? There isn't one. This is it. Coach Reid, and our squad has the talent to put around Alex, and the ability to give him further insight, and tutilege to enhance, and grow his game.

6. Intangibles. This guy has a fire burning inside of him right now. He finally, finally got a head coach who was able to work with him, and he learned the system. He took his team to the brink of the Super Bowl and didn't get there due to no fault of his own. The very moment he was hurt, he was yanked, replaced, and watched his team go to the same spot that he himself probably could've led them too. He's the hungriest man in professional football right now, maybe in all of professional sports. He has something to prove, and he has a chip on his shoulder. And the way he conducted himself throughout that entire process as it unfolded last year was the mark of a leader.

7. History. Time and time again we've seen the stats that 1st round QB's win Super Bowls. We have not only a 1st round QB in Alex, but the very first pick in the draft. This is what we all wanted. Not how we envisioned it, but history is now on our side.

So there you have it. I've gone through mourning, and I've done my homework. I believe in our coach, and our new general manager, and I do not believe this in any way, shape, or form is remniscent of Scott *****, and the moves he made when he came to Kansas City. And I think that is truly our biggest fear. Because this move looks SO closely like the one Scooter made when he came to town, that we are all going to be relegated to that kind of failure over the next half decade.

I just don't think so. I think we have a former number 1 overall pick, that was the consensus number 1 at the time. This isn't a guy who backed up Matt Leinart in college. He played, and he played well. And again, this is a what have you done for me lately league. Alex has grown immensely in the last 2-3 years and has shown he has the ability to make the plays, make the throws, use his legs, and win when the game is on the line.

This is the new face of the franchise. Join me in optimism. Let this Kingdom stand tall, and proud, and root our warriors onto victory. We have our field general. And he's proven recently that he has the ability to lead our troops to victory.

Last edited by Mr. Flopnuts; 02-28-2013 at 09:18 AM..
Posts: 44,641
Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Flopnuts is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:50 AM   #136
Mosbonian Mosbonian is offline
On Hiatus
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $125
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pestilence View Post
If Geno Smith ends up being a Top 10 QB.....then they failed.
If Matt Barkley ends up being a Top 10 QB.....then they failed.
A couple of if's.....that no one can say for sure will happen.

The reality of it all is that we sucked 1 year too late....now we are faced with what most experts say is a mediocre draft for QB's. Was Alex Smith the answer....only time will tell, but sure seems that many have a crystal ball that they are using to prognosticate that it has already failed. (Just for grins and giggles, I'd love to have the winning Lottery numbers if that crystal ball truly works)

I remember this same kind of vitriol when we signed Priest Holmes, & when we drafted a hurt RB from Texas named Jamaal Charles.
Posts: 8,538
Mosbonian has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:50 AM   #137
Fritz88 Fritz88 is offline
Cock Puncher.
 
Fritz88's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Casino cash: $6052
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pestilence View Post
I'm not pissed at Alex Smith the player. I accepted the fact as soon as the rumors started that he was probably coming here. I'm pissed at the compensation that we gave up and how it basically ****s us when it comes to the draft.....just like 2009.
This
Posted via Mobile Device
Posts: 12,484
Fritz88 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fritz88 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fritz88 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fritz88 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fritz88 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fritz88 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fritz88 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fritz88 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fritz88 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fritz88 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Fritz88 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:51 AM   #138
Mr. Laz Mr. Laz is offline
Don't Tease Me
 
Mr. Laz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: KS
Casino cash: $8565
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Smith 4Ever View Post
And for some reason Reid was dead set on Smith over Geno.
apparently

Rumor has it that during one interviews for the QB's in this year's draft at the combine, a QB was asked to give them a play call.

So the QB did and then he told "the defense adjust to stop that play at the LOS, what do you do?"

The player said "look over to the sideline for a new play from coach"


I have no idea if that player was Geno Smith or not but if that is an example of this year's QB draft then maybe Alex Smith won by default.
Posts: 82,243
Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mr. Laz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:51 AM   #139
Pestilence Pestilence is offline
Want a ride?
 
Pestilence's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Nor-Cal
Casino cash: $2158
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosbonian View Post
A couple of if's.....that no one can say for sure will happen.

The reality of it all is that we sucked 1 year too late....now we are faced with what most experts say is a mediocre draft for QB's. Was Alex Smith the answer....only time will tell, but sure seems that many have a crystal ball that they are using to prognosticate that it has already failed. (Just for grins and giggles, I'd love to have the winning Lottery numbers if that crystal ball truly works)

I remember this same kind of vitriol when we signed Priest Holmes, & when we drafted a hurt RB from Texas named Jamaal Charles.
Ladies and Gentlemen.....one of the retarded 80%.
Posts: 44,628
Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:54 AM   #140
Mosbonian Mosbonian is offline
On Hiatus
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $125
Quote:
Originally Posted by KC Tattoo View Post
Yet pundits say he could go to the Jags at number two or raiders at #3. Good enough for them but not us?
The same Jags and Raiders who were sure that Blaine Gabbert and Jamarcus Russell were the answer to their woes.....yeah I want to pin my decision on the idiots at those franchises.
Posts: 8,538
Mosbonian has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:54 AM   #141
ChiTown ChiTown is offline
Stroking to Andy's Man Boobs
 
ChiTown's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Flatlands of Kansas
Casino cash: $13816
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosbonian View Post
A couple of if's.....that no one can say for sure will happen.

The reality of it all is that we sucked 1 year too late....now we are faced with what most experts say is a mediocre draft for QB's. Was Alex Smith the answer....only time will tell, but sure seems that many have a crystal ball that they are using to prognosticate that it has already failed. (Just for grins and giggles, I'd love to have the winning Lottery numbers if that crystal ball truly works)

I remember this same kind of vitriol when we signed Priest Holmes, & when we drafted a hurt RB from Texas named Jamaal Charles.
__________________


FRESHMAN DEBATE SQUAD - 2nd ALTERNATE
Posts: 18,105
ChiTown has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ChiTown has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ChiTown has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ChiTown has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ChiTown has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ChiTown has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ChiTown has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ChiTown has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ChiTown has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ChiTown has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.ChiTown has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:54 AM   #142
Pestilence Pestilence is offline
Want a ride?
 
Pestilence's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Nor-Cal
Casino cash: $2158
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosbonian View Post
The same Jags and Raiders who were sure that Blaine Gabbert and Jamarcus Russell were the answer to their woes.....yeah I want to pin my decision on the idiots at those franchises.
Just admit that you're scared to draft a 1st round QB.
Posts: 44,628
Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pestilence is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:54 AM   #143
ndws ndws is offline
Starter
 
ndws's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2012
Casino cash: $5482
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pestilence View Post
Two things and then I'm ****ing done with your stupid ass.

1. Better than Cassel is a bullshit argument. We could have signed Jason Campbell and been better than Cassel.

2. Geno was a popular choice here....but do you know what the underlying argument was? Draft a ****ing QB at #1.
Well, I'm sorry my stupid ass prompted the need for a diaper change. I didn't know you would get so butt hurt over something so inconsequential to your real life. lol

1) Anyway, its not a bullshit argument. Its an improvement to the team. And this team needs improvements. The quarterbacks on this roster were horse shit. They just happen to go a different direction than what you and the majority of CP demanded, but that doesn't make it a bullshit argument.

2) Geno was most definitely a popular choice. Its a circular argument, which will turn into a brickwall of geno-or-bust believers yelling "**** you true fan" and saying he was the only way to a Super Bowl. The team, apparently, just didn't want to roll everything into the rookie that outside of CP is mostly meh on.
Posts: 267
ndws is not part of the Right 53.ndws is not part of the Right 53.ndws is not part of the Right 53.ndws is not part of the Right 53.ndws is not part of the Right 53.ndws is not part of the Right 53.ndws is not part of the Right 53.ndws is not part of the Right 53.ndws is not part of the Right 53.ndws is not part of the Right 53.ndws is not part of the Right 53.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:55 AM   #144
Mosbonian Mosbonian is offline
On Hiatus
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $125
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pestilence View Post
Ladies and Gentlemen.....one of the retarded 80%.
That's the best answer you can give? At least make an attempt to respond...

Your response is like hearing...."well, yeah but you are a poopy-head"
Posts: 8,538
Mosbonian has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:57 AM   #145
Ace Gunner Ace Gunner is offline
First Overall
 
Ace Gunner's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: kcmo
Casino cash: $5097
well done floppy
__________________
The Greatest
Posts: 10,388
Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:58 AM   #146
Mosbonian Mosbonian is offline
On Hiatus
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $125
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pestilence View Post
Just admit that you're scared to draft a 1st round QB.
Nope.....I'm just smart enough to wonder if Geno Smith is truly what everyone is building him up to be.

I've yet to see you answer with a response as to why he is a "solid, dead-lock" answer to our issues.

The difference between you and me is that while I am looking at the situation, I'm not ready to jump off the Paseo Bridge. Am I happy about the Alex Smith trade? No in any way.....But unlike many, I am also not sold on Geno Smith. And remarkably so are many of the others who saw him at the Combine.
Posts: 8,538
Mosbonian has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:58 AM   #147
Mosbonian Mosbonian is offline
On Hiatus
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $125
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiTown View Post
Nice...no response either?
Posts: 8,538
Mosbonian has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 10:59 AM   #148
Ace Gunner Ace Gunner is offline
First Overall
 
Ace Gunner's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: kcmo
Casino cash: $5097
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pestilence View Post
I'm seriously tired of this ****ing bullshit argument.

I did that in 2009 and got the last 4 years as a ****ing reward for doing it. Do you think that the Lions fans sat there and did the whole...."well...he drafted another WR....he knows what he's doing!"? It's a ****ing bullshit argument by the fans who love 8-8 and having fun at a tailgate.

Fool me once....shame on you. Fool me twice....shame on me.

Andy Reid and John Dorsey don't get my undivided devotion. I don't care if people think that's not fair and that I'm not a fan of this team.....but it's the ****ing truth. Unless they draft a QB at #1.....this year is going to be the year that everyone comes back to.

If Geno Smith ends up being a Top 10 QB.....then they failed.
If Matt Barkley ends up being a Top 10 QB.....then they failed.

They had a shot to grab EITHER ONE of those QBs at #1.....and they chose to pass for a 27 year old game manager.

And you know what....I blame the fans for this. I blame the fans because I'm sick and ****ing tired of hearing from this fan base that they don't want to struggle for a year or two with a rookie QB. I blame the fans for being happy with the mediocrity that is 8-8 or 10-6 and getting killed in the 1st round of the playoffs. It's because of fans like that...that we're stuck with retread QBs every few years.
so, it's Teflon Clark Hunt
__________________
The Greatest
Posts: 10,388
Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 11:00 AM   #149
Sweet Daddy Hate Sweet Daddy Hate is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: ABQNM
Casino cash: $5000
Chiefs fans would rationalize Nazi eugenics if it meant good tailgating and beating a division rival once a season.
Posted via Mobile Device
Posts: 18,397
Sweet Daddy Hate < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sweet Daddy Hate < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sweet Daddy Hate < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sweet Daddy Hate < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sweet Daddy Hate < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sweet Daddy Hate < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sweet Daddy Hate < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sweet Daddy Hate < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sweet Daddy Hate < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sweet Daddy Hate < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sweet Daddy Hate < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2013, 11:00 AM   #150
Ace Gunner Ace Gunner is offline
First Overall
 
Ace Gunner's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: kcmo
Casino cash: $5097
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mosbonian View Post
Nice...no response either?
wait till shorter chimes in with his gf gifs. you're gonna love that.
__________________
The Greatest
Posts: 10,388
Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.Ace Gunner is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:31 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
A new website that shows member-created construction site listings that need fill or have excess fill. Dirt Monkey @ https://DirtMonkey.net
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.