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Old 02-28-2013, 09:29 AM  
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I'm going to make a lot of you ill with this thread

I wanted Geno Smith as much as anyone here. But I'm an it is what it is guy. So I started last night trying to find some kind of bright side to this whole fiasco. I've written the following piece, and am looking forward to being skewered for it.

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The Alex Smith Experiment

Let it be known, I was in mourning all day yesterday. I had hitched my wagons so tightly to Geno Smith or some other young, QB stud coming out of this year's draft class that I never could bring myself to believe that the brilliant Andy Reid, and John Dorsey would actually trade for Alex Smith. Then they did. And I was crushed. I whined, complained, and proclaimed I could no longer care about this team. But I was born and raised inside the walls of this Kingdom. I could never pack my bags and walk away.

So I started thinking about what all of this meant. The first thing that came to mind was that it was obvious our new leadership didn't see what I saw in this year's crop of field generals. They agreed with the majority of people out there saying there was very, very little to be excited about out of the QB's entering the NFL this year. It also occurred to me that they must have thought very highly of Alex Smith considering the compensation that is being rumored to be given up for him. And I wondered if all the work we put in with Save Our Chiefs last year was in vein.

I mean, we've seen this movie. Over, and over, and over again. This is the 5th 49er retread this franchise has brought in for us over the last 25 years. And the great Joe Montana was the only one that has provided us with a playoff win. So naturally my thought process was “Here we go again! New Chiefs, same as the old Chiefs!”

Then I started doing my homework and watching the last couple of years of Alex Smith. This is a what have you done for me lately league, so I wasn't really worried about his first few years in the league. Coaching changes year after year, and no real continuity was what greeted him to the league. Jim Harbaugh came in and 2011 Alex Smith made some instant strides. I saw some things out of him that have now convinced me that this time the sequel could be better than the original. Here are some reasons I believe Alex Smith can help lead us to the promised land.

1. Leadership. Probably the most important thing a QB has to have, and something that has lacked in KC for the last couple of years. 2012 was a huge indicator of that. The Chiefs didn't believe in their QB and their play reflected it. On both sides of the ball. Alex Smith didn't have a contract with the 49ers the year of the lockout. Yet it was widely reported he still got his hands on Jim Harbaugh's new playbook and organized practices with his teammates. They rallied around him, and the proof is in the pudding. A muffed punt away from the Super Bowl.

2. Clutch. He has it. Tons of it. The biggest indicator was in his first playoff game. Back and forth, and they fell behind with around a minute left in the game. Alex marched them down the field and on a 3rd and 3 with his team in field goal position, he made his best pass of the entire game to score the game winning TD. On the biggest stage of his life. His coach could've easily played it safe and went for over time, but he believed in Alex. And that belief paid off with a win.

3. Field awareness. I watched a lot of tape. When Alex got loose of the pocket and had to scramble, he knew where the first down marker was. I watched him twist, and turn. Take hits, and deliver hits to get to that first down marker. No fetal position from Alex Smith. He went for it. Consistantly.

4. Progressions. I watched him go through progressions when he needed too. I haven't seen a lot of Alex locking onto a guy and just winging it in there regardless of coverage. That said, I've also seen him wing that ball in between two defenders where only his guy can catch the ball. And there's enough strength in his throws that the ball is there before the defender can respond too it.

5. Coaching. It took an elite coach to get the very best out of Alex Smith. And when he received that, he excelled instantaneously. What better coach, or situation could Alex Smith go to right now and replicate that success? There isn't one. This is it. Coach Reid, and our squad has the talent to put around Alex, and the ability to give him further insight, and tutilege to enhance, and grow his game.

6. Intangibles. This guy has a fire burning inside of him right now. He finally, finally got a head coach who was able to work with him, and he learned the system. He took his team to the brink of the Super Bowl and didn't get there due to no fault of his own. The very moment he was hurt, he was yanked, replaced, and watched his team go to the same spot that he himself probably could've led them too. He's the hungriest man in professional football right now, maybe in all of professional sports. He has something to prove, and he has a chip on his shoulder. And the way he conducted himself throughout that entire process as it unfolded last year was the mark of a leader.

7. History. Time and time again we've seen the stats that 1st round QB's win Super Bowls. We have not only a 1st round QB in Alex, but the very first pick in the draft. This is what we all wanted. Not how we envisioned it, but history is now on our side.

So there you have it. I've gone through mourning, and I've done my homework. I believe in our coach, and our new general manager, and I do not believe this in any way, shape, or form is remniscent of Scott *****, and the moves he made when he came to Kansas City. And I think that is truly our biggest fear. Because this move looks SO closely like the one Scooter made when he came to town, that we are all going to be relegated to that kind of failure over the next half decade.

I just don't think so. I think we have a former number 1 overall pick, that was the consensus number 1 at the time. This isn't a guy who backed up Matt Leinart in college. He played, and he played well. And again, this is a what have you done for me lately league. Alex has grown immensely in the last 2-3 years and has shown he has the ability to make the plays, make the throws, use his legs, and win when the game is on the line.

This is the new face of the franchise. Join me in optimism. Let this Kingdom stand tall, and proud, and root our warriors onto victory. We have our field general. And he's proven recently that he has the ability to lead our troops to victory.

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Old 02-28-2013, 10:25 AM   #61
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There is only one bright side to all of this:

He's injury prone. Hopefully when he inevitably gets knocked out of the game the backup takes his spot for good, Kaepernick style.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:25 AM   #62
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I wanted Geno too. But, no one on this board can really say they know more about QB technique and football than Reid. This is his baby. For crissakes he watched the entire season of each player before he even had the interview.

I think a lot of the depression on here is partly due to some similarites to 2009.

We just have to trust and hope that Reid has made the right decision. I'm a idiot, I can't quit being a fan of a team that sucks ass. Whats wrong with me?
the thing is when it comes to Geno Smith, the CP is about the only place I have heard touting him as "the answer". Everywhere else seems to call him "meh" at best along with the rest of the QB's.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:26 AM   #63
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No they weren't.
You don't find less than 200 yards a game in his "best" two seasons scintillating?
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:26 AM   #64
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This is pretty much how I feel about the pick-up. I'm banking on Andy Reid's pedigree with QB's to continue the upward directory of Alex Smith's career. His last two years have been quite good. Sure I would like to see him throw for more yards but his TD/INT ratio is good and he has proven to come up big in the end of ball games the last couple of years. In reality his ability to protect the ball in itself will improve this team drastically.

Wish the compensation was much lighter but overall I like the pick-up. It is apparent our front office isn't high on this years draft class of QB's. Flame away!!!
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:26 AM   #65
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Very good write-up Flop, well done.

But I just want to say, this is going to fail. It's going to fail at an epic capacity. We will want to burn down the stadium in a couple years it will fail so badly...

Lets say this somehow works for a couple 3 years. The best we will ever see is a 9 to 11 game winning season, We will NEVER overtake the with Peyton Manthing. Alex Smith will NOT take us deep into the playoffs.

This "clutch" factor that you speak of doesnt exist in my opinion. The guy is TERRIBLE on third downs when he is needed the most. Clay pointed out yesterday how bad Smiths record is when opposing teams score 24 or more. Alex Smith's career record when the opponent scores at least 24 points: 2-27-1. So he certainly cant bring us back in a game.

**** that.

His best seasons were in a run first offense. The polar opposite of Reids offense. I've tried to wrap my head around this for the better part of 24 hours. I just don't see it. My signature tells the whole story.
LOL, my gut instinct is every single bit of this post. Just because it's not as bad as Cassel, doesn't make it good. Just trying to find some bright side, because I'm not walking away from this team. I can't.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:26 AM   #66
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I'm seriously tired of this ****ing bullshit argument.

I did that in 2009 and got the last 4 years as a ****ing reward for doing it. Do you think that the Lions fans sat there and did the whole...."well...he drafted another WR....he knows what he's doing!"? It's a ****ing bullshit argument by the fans who love 8-8 and having fun at a tailgate.

Fool me once....shame on you. Fool me twice....shame on me.

Andy Reid and John Dorsey don't get my undivided devotion. I don't care if people think that's not fair and that I'm not a fan of this team.....but it's the ****ing truth. Unless they draft a QB at #1.....this year is going to be the year that everyone comes back to.

If Geno Smith ends up being a Top 10 QB.....then they failed.
If Matt Barkley ends up being a Top 10 QB.....then they failed.

They had a shot to grab EITHER ONE of those QBs at #1.....and they chose to pass for a 27 year old game manager.

And you know what....I blame the fans for this. I blame the fans because I'm sick and ****ing tired of hearing from this fan base that they don't want to struggle for a year or two with a rookie QB. I blame the fans for being happy with the mediocrity that is 8-8 or 10-6 and getting killed in the 1st round of the playoffs. It's because of fans like that...that we're stuck with retread QBs every few years.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:27 AM   #67
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the thing is when it comes to Geno Smith, the CP is about the only place I have heard touting him as "the answer". Everywhere else seems to call him "meh" at best along with the rest of the QB's.
And that my friend is a prime example of how stupid this fan base is. They hang off whatever ESPN and NFL Network tell them. They don't watch a lick of college football.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:29 AM   #68
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the thing is when it comes to Geno Smith, the CP is about the only place I have heard touting him as "the answer". Everywhere else seems to call him "meh" at best along with the rest of the QB's.
Yet pundits say he could go to the Jags at number two or raiders at #3. Good enough for them but not us?
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:30 AM   #70
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LOL, my gut instinct is every single bit of this post. Just because it's not as bad as Cassel, doesn't make it good. Just trying to find some bright side, because I'm not walking away from this team. I can't.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:34 AM   #71
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And that my friend is a prime example of how stupid this fan base is. They hang off whatever ESPN and NFL Network tell them. They don't watch a lick of college football.
You mean, versus listening to the CP Intelligentsia?
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the thing is when it comes to Geno Smith, the CP is about the only place I have heard touting him as "the answer". Everywhere else seems to call him "meh" at best along with the rest of the QB's.
100% agree...Also, lets say this trade never happened and we drafted Geno with the first pick...Geno turns out to be a bust( which I think he will be)...Now who do we have? We needed this..I'm not happy we gave up our 2nd rd pick for him..But we needed a Veteran QB.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:35 AM   #73
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I don't. Completely spur of the moment. I'll take that as a compliment though. Thanks.
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LOL, my gut instinct is every single bit of this post. Just because it's not as bad as Cassel, doesn't make it good. Just trying to find some bright side, because I'm not walking away from this team. I can't.
I'm with you to not walk away from this team brother but I don't have to be happy or for a second think it's going to work out winning us a Super Bowl.

I would be happy in the end if we win a Super Bowl with Alex Smiff. I just don't see it happening nore do I have hope we will. This is why I am so angry and hurt over the deal. They cut me deep.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:35 AM   #75
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I stand behind my original comment on this trade. I'm cool with this trade as long as we bring in some kind of competition and not pull a cassel. My problem with pioli wasn't that he brought in Matt my problem was never bringing in competition. When we had it he let it go so Matt wasn't threatened. If we do this with Alex we are in big trouble.
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