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Old 02-28-2013, 07:27 PM  
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Vontae Davis may or may not have gotten on Twitter yesterday and blurted out that the Kansas City Chiefs are already negotiating a contract with soon-to-be free agent Sean Smith. Smith and Davis are friends from their days in Miami together. Both were drafted by the Dolphins in 2009. Davis was traded to the Indianapolis Colts in 2012.

Shortly after Davis's Twitter account all but stated that the Chiefs were violating NFL rules regarding tampering, Davis's account sent out the seemingly laughable excuse that it had been hacked. Well, this prompted Sean Smith to address the issue:


Smith then posted this (it's too long to embed the entire tweet):

Ok this is getting out of hand, I've never talked to any other team besides the Miami Dolphins. Yes I talked to vontae and I told him Al Harris (our former coach) got the job up in KC and that I talked to him a few days ago to tell him congrats. That's it! Now why he interpreted that as "talking to KC" idk but there is NOTHING going on! This is ridiculous
OK. That's understandable. So, what about the whole Vontae's Twitter account got hacked thing?


So, you're essentially saying Vontae lied to cover his ass and yours? That's just how I'm reading it.

And if it was just a simple misunderstanding, why did Sean Smith block Miami Herald reporter Armando Salguero in Twitter? I mean, all Salguero did was report on what happened. Even Smith's agent seemingly got a little testy with Salguero over the incident. The Miami reporter did what any decent journalist would do in this situation and contacted agent David Canter for a comment. Canter responded with this lovely little gem:

"Donít believe everything players tell you Armando. Rule number 1 of football journalism."
Really? I had no idea Smith's agent went to journalism school! And is there such a thing as "football journalism?" Does it have its own separate set of rules? Is one of them not believing the words sent out by a verified NFL player's Twitter account?

Look, maybe I'm reading too much into this, but if Smith is acting so douchey about a reporter actually reporting on something that may or may not be tampering, that kind of suggests that maybe the smoke sent up yesterday might have some fire.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:43 PM   #46
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Certainly...at the low low cost of the first overall pick.

I'd say the opportunity cost there outweighs the nominal cap savings, wouldn't you?

This draft is too deep in DBs to take Milliner at 1.1, IMO.
i dont disagree with your last part about deep DBs to take a CB 1.1 but if you are telling me the options are bidding war in FA to overpay a CB with a starting asking price of 24 mil guaranteed and an agent that will lobby for that to go up and play the business side of it versus a young CB at any point in the first round regardless of draft slot, I'd take the latter.

at the same time the market is flooded with CBs in FA as well as deep in the draft. How much is a team like the Chiefs willing to overpay for a veteran?
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:45 PM   #47
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Sign smith and draft millner. Can't have enough of 2 things on D: pass rushers and corners. We need a guy that can play the slot
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:46 PM   #48
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This would be a good pickup IMO
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:46 PM   #49
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This would be a good pickup IMO
*Everyone immediately vacates the Sean Smith bandwagon*
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:46 PM   #50
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we need ILB and DE help though.

S and WR depth wouldn't hurt either.

Fugg it, we can use help anywhere really.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:47 PM   #51
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It's not my fault you're wrong 100% of the time.

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Old 03-06-2013, 03:10 PM   #53
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i dont disagree with your last part about deep DBs to take a CB 1.1 but if you are telling me the options are bidding war in FA to overpay a CB with a starting asking price of 24 mil guaranteed and an agent that will lobby for that to go up and play the business side of it versus a young CB at any point in the first round regardless of draft slot, I'd take the latter.

at the same time the market is flooded with CBs in FA as well as deep in the draft. How much is a team like the Chiefs willing to overpay for a veteran?
I'd gamble on the rd 3 CB or the development of Brown. This is where losing that 2nd rounder hurts so badly. It really does make filling that CB hole tough.

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I'm curious which ones would still be on the board by the time we take our pick in the 3rd. I was hoping we could pick up another WR like Woods from USC.
Woods took himself out of the 3rd with his combine performance; he was easily the 2nd best WR there. He was smooth, he was fluid in his movements. I don't know that I saw a great deal of upside in him, but I don't see any way someone doesn't grab him before the middle of the 2nd round.
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Old 03-06-2013, 03:11 PM   #54
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It's not my fault you're wrong 100% of the time.

JFC, there's an entire thread dedicated just to your stupidity.

This is true.

One can hardly blame you for seizing on the momentum of the CoMo curse.

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Old 03-06-2013, 03:41 PM   #55
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I'd gamble on the rd 3 CB or the development of Brown. This is where losing that 2nd rounder hurts so badly. It really does make filling that CB hole tough.



Woods took himself out of the 3rd with his combine performance; he was easily the 2nd best WR there. He was smooth, he was fluid in his movements. I don't know that I saw a great deal of upside in him, but I don't see any way someone doesn't grab him before the middle of the 2nd round.
I was kinda hoping for Woods in the 2nd as well, was pretty impressed. Great feet, balance, hands, speed was plenty good enough, with multiple years of performance at top college program, as opposed to several of the USC wideouts of late with short bursts of productivity. Still hoping we get that early 2nd pick back from somebody who wants to move up just a few spots. Don't wake me just yet, still dreaming...
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I was kinda hoping for Woods in the 2nd as well, was pretty impressed. Great feet, balance, hands, speed was plenty good enough, with multiple years of performance at top college program, as opposed to several of the USC wideouts of late with short bursts of productivity. Still hoping we get that early 2nd pick back from somebody who wants to move up just a few spots. Don't wake me just yet, still dreaming...
Maybe a Donald Driver type. Nice hands, solid strength, good route-running.

I'm sure there's a better comp but I can't think of one. I don't see him as ever being a real #1 WR, but you can get a nice #2 out of him. That said, I don't think he's a #2 opposite of Bowe. He does about what Bowe does, just not quite as well. So they're not going to occupy different spots on the field that well.

Where he'd fit really well is Tampa Bay opposite of Vincent Jackson.
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I spoke earlier of a solid FA corner coming here and an FA wr. This team will be ready to roll even with Alex at QB.
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How old is sean smith I know he has size but wasn't Vontae traded cause they thought he would fill the spot
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Smith's in his mid-20s.

He's looking for his second contract.
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How old is sean smith I know he has size but wasn't Vontae traded cause they thought he would fill the spot
Spit the bit when asked to be a #1.

If they can pay him like a #2, he's a worthwhile gamble; he has serious talent. But if he's looking for #1 money, let someone else have him.
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