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Old 03-01-2013, 06:44 AM  
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The start of my juice cleanse/fast.

Alright lads, I started my juice fast/cleanse today and I thought it would be fun to keep everyone updated with where I am. I have already found two recipes I do not like. I thought this kind of thread would be a good way for anyone who is currently doing it or thinking about doing it. You can see me make the mistakes and then learn from them if you want to do this yourself. If you have any good recipes definitely put them in here. Anyone who has any type of input feel free to share it!

Reason for juice cleanse/fast: Doctor recommended for possible solution for migraines. He recommend this also as a good way to lower my blood pressure, LDL and CDL's, none of my numbers are really high, but they could definitely be lowered. I also am getting surgery on my ankle to take my steel plate out and install another newer plate, he said this would help with joint pain and healing. I also watched quite a few different documentaries and read a boat load of articles and I just love what the juice cleanse can do for you. It's not a diet for me, it's a lifestyle change. I want to be healthier for myself, my wife and out future kids. Personally I think I will always incorporate at least 1 juice meal per day after my cleanse.

Cost so far: I bought an Omega 330BM juicer at Bed Bath and Beyond, I had a 20% off coupon and I got it for $130. I spent $39 dollars on 2-3 days worth of juicing items (cucumbers, kale, celery, ginger root, carrots, kiwi, lemon, apples, pears, berries and strawberries). I will update this pretty regularly because I am not sure how much I will go through initially.

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First two recipes:

Breakfast: 6 carrots and a head of romaine lettuce. Did not like this recipe, it tasted like carrot dirt water. Definitely would alter or not use this recipe.

Lunch:Mean Green juice(off fat sick and nearly dead website). 2 cucumbers, 2apples, 6-8 kale, 1/2 lemon, 4 celery, 1tbsp ginger root. I havent drank this juice yet, but I did try it when I made it. I read online to leave the lemon peel on, it makes it taste a little more lemony. I found the opposite, it makes it more bitter. This juice I would envision to be like take a cows chewing cud and spinkle lemon juice and water on it lol.

Dinner: I will probably make something fruity, because I will need it.


Tips I have obtained and learned that are good to know: Do not make fruity juices to drink at night. Once you get over the detox period, you will have much more energy, if you drink a fruit juice mixture it will definitely keep you up. There are properties in the greens that help mellow you out a bit. I got this tip off a website of a black woman who has a youtube called Raw Raw life, she is super insightful, definitely recommend checking her page out.
Starting off I would definitely recommend spending the money on buying extra fruit, you have start off on the right foot, if you only drink the greens with minimal fruit you aren't going to like it. You can start off on the fruit and pull back after you get used to it.

The cleanup takes longer than making the juice. Buy a good juicer, mine is super easy to clean and use, its a pain, but that comes with the territory.

Thoughts so far about possible road blocks: The only real concern I have is the caffeine withdrawal. I spoke to my doctor about this before I did the cleanse and I have weened myself off of caffeine to some extent, but I know this will be hard for the first 2-3 days. I also don't look forward to taking runny poo's all day.
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Old 03-01-2013, 10:36 AM   #31
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I've juiced all kinds of vegetables/fruits. There aren't any that I don't like, but I typically eat them rather than juice them. Also, if I'm going to drink fruits/vegetables I prefer to blend them into smoothies instead of juicing. This way you consume the entire fruit/vegetable (less pits) instead of discarding the pulp when using a juicer.
That is a big thing most people don't realize (I saw it online), when you use a juicer you have a ton of leftover pulp. I have heard a good treat when you are doing an all fruit juice to scrap the pulp out, put it in the freezer and have it as a snack later. Great point though DaKC. It will be really nice for me, when I get back to eating regularly, and what I mean by that is regular food, salads, chicken things like that. I know better already how to eat healthier, but I need to stay the course here, and then move on.
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Old 03-01-2013, 10:37 AM   #32
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Does the juice just chop everything up real fine, or does it take out the pulp?
Sorry I completely misread what you were asking. Everything you juice leaves quite a lot of pulp you have to discard. Sorry about that, I had a brain fart when I first read your post.
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Old 03-01-2013, 10:49 AM   #33
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Old 03-01-2013, 10:54 AM   #34
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Good luck man. I hope you update this thread regularly. Like DaKCMan, I blend everything in my Vitamix and chug it. leaving in the fibrous good stuff. I hope this goes well for you. I have a feeling that you'll be irritable and hungry at first, but you'll eventually feel great.
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:05 AM   #35
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Kale, spinach, green grapes, pineapple (frozen for cold purposes) Apple. Use lots of the spinach and kale.

Also, with your carrot juice, use the ginger. Ginger makes it amazing.

Ginger in most of these drinks make it amazing.

And one ore thing, avocado in drinks is also killer. It makes the drinks creamy.
I like ginger too, but too much in the juicer can make the taste overwhelming. How much do you use?
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:21 AM   #36
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I just can't come to terms with why people do this. You're drastically changing your diet, forcing yourself to ingest something that you don't like the taste of, in which your body freaks out and violently shits it all out anyway. And this is supposed to make you feel better?

It doesn't make any sense. And there's never been any proof that it's necessary or effective. Sorry to be negative, but I hate to see people waste time and money on this kind of homeopathic nonsense..
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:33 AM   #37
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I just can't come to terms with why people do this. You're drastically changing your diet, forcing yourself to ingest something that you don't like the taste of, in which your body freaks out and violently shits it all out anyway. And this is supposed to make you feel better?

It doesn't make any sense. And there's never been any proof that it's necessary or effective. Sorry to be negative, but I hate to see people waste time and money on this kind of homeopathic nonsense..
This. Why not just make wholesale lifestyle and diet changes? There is no quick fix, certainly not juicing. If you don't change your lifestyle, that weight will just come right back. So then why juice at all?
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I just can't come to terms with why people do this. You're drastically changing your diet, forcing yourself to ingest something that you don't like the taste of, in which your body freaks out and violently shits it all out anyway. And this is supposed to make you feel better?

It doesn't make any sense. And there's never been any proof that it's necessary or effective. Sorry to be negative, but I hate to see people waste time and money on this kind of homeopathic nonsense..
One benefit I can think of is that it can expose any food allergies or sensitivities a person might have.
Other than that, it's just the latest diet fad.
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This actually isn't a new fad. The Detox cleanse idea was actually started in the 20's. And not surprisingly, it was done so in effort to sell stuff.

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The golden age of the colon in America was in the late 19th century when—perhaps influenced by a new emphasis on hygiene and proper sewage removal—serious-minded doctors developed the theory of colonic autointoxication.

The idea was that the intestines were a sewage system and that constipation, although never specifically defined, resulted in a cesspool within the body where food wastes would putrefy, become toxic, and get reabsorbed through the intestines. Some scientists also claimed that constipation caused fecal matter to harden onto the intestinal walls for months or years, blocking the absorption of nutrients (yet somehow not blocking toxins).

John Harvey Kellogg was a leading advocate for the theory of autointoxication and, the legend goes, manufactured whole-grain cereals to promote regular bowel movements. (It was his brother, Will, who founded the Battle Creek Toasted Corn Flake Company, which later became the Kellogg Company.)

It all made perfect sense. But it was wrong.

Constipation is indeed uncomfortable. But careful testing found that those symptoms associated with it and attributed to autointoxication—headache, fatigue, loss of appetite and irritability—were not a result of toxins but rather the colon expanding. The reason was mechanical, not chemical.

The beginning of the end of the (first) era of autointoxication came with a 1919 article in Journal of the American Medical Association by W.C. Alvarez, "Origin of the so-called auto-intoxication symptom."

Soon after, and still to this day, direct observations of the colon through surgery and autopsy find no hardening of fecal matter along the intestinal walls. There's no cesspool either. Cesspools form from copious amounts of feces from entire neighborhoods, which is why crowded cities with inadequate sewage systems smelled so awful and why autointoxication made sense.

By the 1920s, colon cleansing was relegated to the realm of quackery. But, in this modern American life of comforts our ancestors could never imagine, you can't keep a crappy idea down.

Autointoxication makes sense today to those people who, for whatever reasons, believe that modern food is filled with toxins and that the pharmaceutical industry wants us to be constipated so that they can make billions of dollars unclogging us with harmful chemicals.


Those who advocate colon cleansing today present the exact same arguments as scientists did more than 100 years ago. Not surprisingly, they're still wrong. Their reasoning is spelled out on thousands of web sites that give no references to their claims that colon cleansing cures everything from arthritis to Zollinger-Ellison syndrome. Inevitably these sites include testimonials, then the opportunity to buy the cure.

"It's all just nonsense," says Dr. Brian Lacy of Dartmouth Medical School, author of Making Sense of IBS: A Physician Answers Your Questions about Irritable Bowel Syndrome. With prices often topping $100 and sometimes reaching $1,000 for weeklong spa therapies, Lacy calls colon cleansing "a very expensive enema."

Listen to logic

Lacy approaches the topic logically. If stool is toxic, then the roughly 15 percent of American adults with constipation would have higher rates of colon or digestive diseases. They don't.

There have been real, honest-to-goodness studies on colon cleansing in recent years, he said, but they all have focused on the potential harm: abscesses caused by too much water, rectal perforation and electrolyte imbalance. All that water, usually tens of gallons, washes out the electrolytes that the colon was built to absorb. The water also washes away beneficial bacteria needed for digestion, and not magically only harmful bacteria, as the proponents claim.


Being regular can mean hitting the toilet three times a day or three times a week; there is zero evidence that more bowel movements will make you healthier. If you are constipated, then a laxative can make you feel better. Laxatives also aren't necessarily healthy. There are kinds that shock the bowels into moving, kinds that draw water into the intestines, and kinds that build bulk. Many doctors, particularly naturopaths, recommend the bulk-builders.

While colon cleaning can make some people feel better, it doesn't cure any disease; it's no more effective at relieving discomfort than an enema; and it is tantamount to throwing money down the proverbial toilet.
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http://www.livescience.com/947-colon...ey-toilet.html
I'm not sure it's a toxin-reducer than it is a tastier way to ingest a bunch of fruits and vegetables. Nobody likes eating kale (okay, some people do). But eating kale when it's whipped up with wild berries and ice? Yeah, that sounds better.
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I think it's hilarious that the juicer is called an Omega 330BM,
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I'm not sure it's a toxin-reducer than it is a tastier way to ingest a bunch of fruits and vegetables. Nobody likes eating kale (okay, some people do). But eating kale when it's whipped up with wild berries and ice? Yeah, that sounds better.
I like kale!
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I like kale!
No shit. We eat kale like it's going out of style.
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Nobody likes kale like the way people like ice cream. You might "like" kale because you know it's healthy for you and it doesn't taste horrible (although some people think it tastes too bitter). You might like kale in your salad with cheese and mushrooms and olive oil. You might like it in your soup for an additional, complimentary taste.

But nobody, especially a person who in our sugar-infested world, likes kale in and of itself. It's good because it's packed with vitamins, low calories, and goes with things. And what better thing than a wild berry smoothie?
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I tried making kale chips once. It tastes like salty garbage.
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