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Old 03-02-2013, 11:58 AM  
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Ok so I'm curious if this scenario happens

What if Oakland wants geno but jets , buffalo, and cardinals want him.

Those who know draft compensation what could we realistically get for trading down.
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:25 PM   #31
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To actually answer the OP:

We'll need to basically swap 1sts, get their 1st next year, and their 2nd this year.

If we get anything other than that, we're gravy.

That doesn't sound like a lot, but truth be told, the Chiefs really need to trade down, teams don't particularly value the #1 that much this year, and the talent gap between, say, pick 1 and pick 7 isn't that great.

If the Chiefs want to trade down, they need to offer a bargain. Because that's the only way this is happening.
**** me. I had just completely forgotten how much we ****ed ourselves in the draft by trading away our 2nd rounder.

Your post reminded me how the kinds of players we need aren't available at #1 overall but will be available in round 2. We're going to be forced to take an OT that we don't ****ing need.

**** **** **** ****. **** you Reid. **** you Dorsey. **** your families. **** Clark Hunt. **** the Chiefs.
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:27 PM   #32
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**** me. I had just completely forgotten how much we ****ed ourselves in the draft by trading away our 2nd rounder.

Your post reminded me how the kinds of players we need aren't available at #1 overall but will be available in round 2. We're going to be forced to take an OT that we don't ****ing need.

**** **** **** ****. **** you Reid. **** you Dorsey. **** your families. **** Clark Hunt. **** the Chiefs.
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:39 PM   #33
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I don't think Joeckel will be there at 4. I could see the Eagles going with him, or Dion Jordan. No idea about the raiders.
Then we take Eric Fisher.

Fisher = Joeckel

I'd probably take Fisher over Joeckel.
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:43 PM   #34
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**** me. I had just completely forgotten how much we ****ed ourselves in the draft by trading away our 2nd rounder.

Your post reminded me how the kinds of players we need aren't available at #1 overall but will be available in round 2. We're going to be forced to take an OT that we don't ****ing need.

**** **** **** ****. **** you Reid. **** you Dorsey. **** your families. **** Clark Hunt. **** the Chiefs.
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:44 PM   #35
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Then we take Eric Fisher.

Fisher = Joeckel

I'd probably take Fisher over Joeckel.
How bout we sign Albert or another FA T and draft a playmaker. Swapping a vet T for a rookie just to save some money isn't what we this team needs.
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:58 PM   #36
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Jags seem to be in control. However, they rival us and Oakland in "The most ****ed up Franchise" race.
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Old 03-02-2013, 02:03 PM   #37
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How bout we sign Albert or another FA T and draft a playmaker. Swapping a vet T for a rookie just to save some money isn't what we this team needs.
i agree!
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Old 03-02-2013, 02:12 PM   #38
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If it's the Raiders (3) or Philadelphia (4), I think I'd be willing to take even less than that. Maybe a swap of 1sts along with 2nds from this year and next. Of course, I'd try to get more, but in the end, I'd settle for that. I agree with you that they'll need to do it at a discount rate.
In all seriousness, I wouldn't mind if the Chiefs got #4 and #35 from Philly, and then turned #4 into #16 and #22 from the Rams.

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Old 03-02-2013, 02:33 PM   #39
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To actually answer the OP:

We'll need to basically swap 1sts, get their 1st next year, and their 2nd this year.

If we get anything other than that, we're gravy.

That doesn't sound like a lot, but truth be told, the Chiefs really need to trade down, teams don't particularly value the #1 that much this year, and the talent gap between, say, pick 1 and pick 7 isn't that great.

If the Chiefs want to trade down, they need to offer a bargain. Because that's the only way this is happening.
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Old 03-02-2013, 02:37 PM   #40
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I can see Buffalo giving us their #8 and #40 along with next years first or second to move up.

The owner said that they want to move up for a quarterback.
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Old 03-02-2013, 02:39 PM   #41
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I can see Buffalo giving us their #8 and #40 along with next years first or second to move up.

The owner said that they want to move up for a quarterback.
I'll take a 1st round swap and two 2nds, please. We can probably get Lane Johnson at 8.
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:59 PM   #42
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As long as there's a chance the Jags want a QB you have to jump them.
This. The Jags need a QB about as bad as we do and how in the hell do you pass on Geno ? I say if Andy/John were smart they would be quietly playing the "Jags will take Geno card" to Buffalo,Philly,Jets and the Browns and playing that card hard.
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:13 PM   #43
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Honestly, I'd be willing to drop down to seven or eight just for second round compensation. That's how badly we ****ed ourselves.
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Old 03-02-2013, 04:43 PM   #44
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I'll take a 1st round swap and two 2nds, please. We can probably get Lane Johnson at 8.
We could probably still get Fisher there.
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Old 03-02-2013, 05:28 PM   #45
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We could probably still get Fisher there.
Okay; can someone explain why we ought to take an OT at all this year? I thought we were set at those positions with Albert and Winston? Couldn't we still take one of the top QB prospects after trading back a bit, and develop him under A. Smith? Did G. Smith fanatics really just want to take him and throw him on the gridiron and let him sink or swim? The folks with this sky-is-falling outlook are over-reacting I think. There's a way to do this draft to secure a competitive team now and build it even better for the future, and I think Reid and Dorsey are strategizing for it. It's not out of the realm of possibility we still take a QB in the 1st or second round after we trade back to recover that second rounder. I also would like to see the Chiefs pick up an offensive weapon like another receiver with one of those first two picks.
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