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Old 03-03-2013, 07:55 PM  
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The Holocaust Just Got More Shocking

Thirteen years ago, researchers at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum began the grim task of documenting all the ghettos, slave labor sites, concentration camps and killing factories that the Nazis set up throughout Europe.

What they have found so far has shocked even scholars steeped in the history of the Holocaust.

The researchers have cataloged some 42,500 Nazi ghettos and camps throughout Europe, spanning German-controlled areas from France to Russia and Germany itself, during Hitler’s reign of brutality from 1933 to 1945.





http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/su...wanted=1&_r=4&
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:43 PM   #61
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I haven't yet. They've always been on my radar, though.
You should pick up Brave New World at the library. It won't take more than a day or two to read it, you won't put it down.
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Old 03-04-2013, 03:04 PM   #62
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You should pick up Brave New World at the library. It won't take more than a day or two to read it, you won't put it down.
I think it should be required American reading.

And that last story you posted was just sad, glad to it had a positive outcome.

I also find it amazing that some of Hitler's early Jewish friends who got out still wrote him throughout the war. Humans. We are an interesting bunch.
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:00 PM   #63
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I haven't yet. They've always been on my radar, though.
Maybe someday your radar will include the huge influence of anti-Semitism that was preached and endorsed by your church. A charge of Jewish deicide or in simple terms "Christ killers" was not dropped until the 60s. This from a church that proclaimed to be: The One True Church ,The Only Church that Christ Established Is the Catholic Church. It should be noted that pogroms against Jews was endorsed by this church for centuries and ended around 1920. I would think you would be too embarrassed to even open this thread. You would be better served to stick to the thread that will track which man will be your new substitute for Christ on earth. The good news is the bar is pretty ****ing low for whatever clown they prop up~
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:19 PM   #64
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Maybe someday your radar will include the huge influence of anti-Semitism that was preached and endorsed by your church. A charge of Jewish deicide or in simple terms "Christ killers" was not dropped until the 60s. This from a church that proclaimed to be: The One True Church ,The Only Church that Christ Established Is the Catholic Church. It should be noted that pogroms against Jews was endorsed by this church for centuries and ended around 1920. I would think you would be too embarrassed to even open this thread. You would be better served to stick to the thread that will track which man will be your new substitute for Christ on earth. The good news is the bar is pretty ****ing low for whatever clown they prop up~
I think it's a little too neat how you think your own anti-Catholicism is somehow more noble than European antisemitism. Maybe someday you'll realize you're a bigoted hypocrite, but I don't think at this moment you have the type of intellectual courage for the self-reflection that requires.
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:34 PM   #65
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I think it's a little too neat how you think your own anti-Catholicism is somehow more noble than European antisemitism. Maybe someday you'll realize you're a bigoted hypocrite, but I don't think at this moment you have the type of intellectual courage for the self-reflection that requires.
A very feeble attempt at spin. The simple truth is what it is. You took the wrong case my little lawyer friend~
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:36 PM   #66
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A very feeble attempt at spin. The simple truth is what it is. You took the wrong case my little lawyer friend~
The only spinning here is you trying to turn this thread from a historical discussion of the events of the Holocaust to your consuming hatred of the Catholic Church in 2013.
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The only spinning here is you trying to turn this thread from a historical discussion of the events of the Holocaust to your consuming hatred of the Catholic Church.
Which part of what I said was false? Hatred of the Catholic Church I view all man made beliefs the same~
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:47 PM   #68
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BRC would have shit his pants he couldn't scribble names fast enough to give them all the information they needed to know about his neighbors, whether it was true or not.
I would rather die fighting than lose my freedom of speech. Thats a deal breaker and I would have no choice but to join the war against tyranny.

I'm bowing out of this thread. It's conjuring up too many memories.
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I would rather die fighting than lose my freedom of speech. Thats a deal breaker and I would have no choice but to join the war against tyranny.

I'm bowing out of this thread. It's conjuring up too many memories.
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Old 03-04-2013, 06:55 PM   #70
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Which part of what I said was false? Hatred of the Catholic Church I view all man made beliefs the same~
Your rant, caused by nothing more a Catholic poster's reply about a book in a thread about the Holocaust, was full of your usual, half-educated vague generalities editorializing your attitude of hate against Catholicism and the Church's defenders.

To suggest that I shouldn't participate in this thread because I'm a Catholic, that I should somehow feel responsible for the Holocaust, is pathetic. You can fight ihr kamph against the Church elsewhere with someone who finds it worthwhile to listen to.

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Your rant, caused by nothing more a Catholic poster's reply about a book in a thread about the Holocaust, was full of your usual, half-educated vague generalities editorializing your attitude of hate against Catholicism and the Church's defenders.

To suggest that I shouldn't participate in this thread because I'm a Catholic, that I should somehow feel responsible for the Holocaust, is pathetic. You can fight ihr kamph against the Church elsewhere with someone who finds it worthwhile to listen to.
The fact you defend a church that finally dropped the charge of Deicide in the 60s...and maybe just maybe the billions of followers of this church may have been unsympathetic to the Jews they had been taught to hate had no effect is a shameful stance to say the least. You have yet to point out a single false statement in my post. I merely pointed out you should be too embarrassed to participate in this thread. However you have always be shameless in your defense of your cult~
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Old 03-04-2013, 07:32 PM   #72
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The fact you defend a church that finally dropped the charge of Deicide in the 60s...and maybe just maybe the billions of followers of this church may have been unsympathetic to the Jews they had been taught to hate had no effect is a shameful stance to say the least. You have yet to point out a single false statement in my post. I merely pointed out you should be too embarrassed to participate in this thread. However you have always be shameless in your defense of your cult~
They did apologize about fifty years later.
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They did apologize about fifty years later.
Yes along with several other things. To be honest that is the only thing the disgrace of a church is good for...long over due apologies. The sad thing is after the long and painful process of getting these shitbags to fess up they immediately go back to be infallible again
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The fact you defend a church that finally dropped the charge of Deicide in the 60s...and maybe just maybe the billions of followers of this church may have been unsympathetic to the Jews they had been taught to hate had no effect is a shameful stance to say the least. You have yet to point out a single false statement in my post. I merely pointed out you should be too embarrassed to participate in this thread. However you have always be shameless in your defense of your cult~
Where would you like me to begin with your false statements? Perhaps your implication that there ever was a charge of deicide from the Church to the Jewish people. It has literally never been a formalized teaching that the Jewish people were forever (or until conversion) blamed to be the cause of Jesus' death. In fact, that would be inherently heretical. The sacrifice of the Son of God for our eternal life was God's plan.

You confuse a repudiation of any form of Jewish blame by the Second Vatican Council as a "dropping of the charge." It's an ignorant mistake, but understandable if your rock hard belief is that the Catholic Church was, is, and always will be a corrupt institution.

I have no reason to be embarrassed to participate in this thread. I have no reason to be embarrassed to be a Catholic. My belief in the Church is not an endorsement of every action, of every spoken word, that some human(s) affiliated with the Church did or spoke.
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Where would you like me to begin with your false statements? Perhaps your implication that there ever was a charge of deicide from the Church to the Jewish people. It has literally never been a formalized teaching that the Jewish people were forever (or until conversion) blamed to be the cause of Jesus' death. In fact, that would be inherently heretical. The sacrifice of the Son of God for our eternal life was God's plan.

You confuse a repudiation of any form of Jewish blame by the Second Vatican Council as a "dropping of the charge." It's an ignorant mistake, but understandable if your rock hard belief is that the Catholic Church was, is, and always will be a corrupt institution.

I have no reason to be embarrassed to participate in this thread. I have no reason to be embarrassed to be a Catholic. My belief in the Church is not an endorsement of every action, of every spoken word, that some human(s) affiliated with the Church did or spoke.
I would ask is you were serious with this pathitic post but sadly you are~
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