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Old 03-05-2013, 11:03 AM  
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The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:25 PM   #181
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As far as the draft goes, im not buying the "depth 2-whatever" argument. If there are no great players are the top, then there are no great player at the mid-bottom.
I apologize for saying this, but I can't think of any other response: that's just a ludicrous way of looking at the draft.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:25 PM   #182
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If the raiduhs take Joeckel at #3 while Floyd and Lotulelei are still available they deserve to be demoted to a defunct NFL Europe team. Both Kelly and Seymour have been almost as big a disappointment as Jamarcus Russell.
Star has a heart condition, so it's not like the guy is a lock for the top 5, hell maybe not even top 10.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:26 PM   #183
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I apologize for saying this, but I can't think of any other response: that's just a ludicrous way of looking at the draft.
The best players go early, do they not?

The draft thins out as it goes on.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:26 PM   #184
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I'm not going to be screaming "bloody murder" if the Chiefs don't draft Geno. I've stated repeatedly that it's an outside chance. My argument is that it is in fact, still a chance, and that chance increased with the tagging of Albert.

Im well aware that Geno isn't likely, but what irritates me is when people claim that A LT is MORE likely.
They have also discussed moving Branden Albert over and while he has stated he wouldn't want to do so, especially since he would likely make less money, I would believe that to be more likely than drafting Smith at #1.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:27 PM   #185
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They have also discussed moving Branden Albert over and while he has stated he wouldn't want to do so, especially since he would likely make less money, I would believe that to be more likely than drafting Smith at #1.
The Chiefs haven't talked about moving Albert.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:27 PM   #186
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Star has a heart condition, so it's not like the guy is a lock for the top 5, hell maybe not even top 10.
Thus the reason I included Sharrif Floyd in my statement
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:28 PM   #187
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They have also discussed moving Branden Albert over and while he has stated he wouldn't want to do so, especially since he would likely make less money, I would believe that to be more likely than drafting Smith at #1.
Who has discussed this? Over where? You think they Tagged Albert as a LT and will be paying him a LT salary so he can play guard? Mmm....nah i don't think so.

Are they going to move him to RT to replace a top 10 guy that they just signed last season?

yeah, not buying that one either.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:28 PM   #188
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There's a couple of things that you are forgetting. One, they have the first pick and everyone is behind them. Two, a deal for that pick would likely be done in advance.
"Likely"?

How many times has the #1 overall pick been traded before draft day?
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:30 PM   #189
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"Likely"?

How many times has the #1 overall pick been traded before draft day?
Shit...how many times has the #1 pick been traded period.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:32 PM   #190
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The Chiefs haven't talked about moving Albert.
Actually, that is a horrible rash assumption. I am sure it has been mulled as almost every source that has interviewed Albert has asked him about potentially moving to right guard which he vehemently denies will happen but has never stated has not been discussed by the franchise.

The franchise tag reduces the chances of drafting Luke, but I would still say is more likely than Smith.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:37 PM   #191
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Actually, that is a horrible rash assumption. I am sure it has been mulled as almost every source that has interviewed Albert has asked him about potentially moving to right guard which he vehemently denies will happen but has never stated has not been discussed by the franchise.

The franchise tag reduces the chances of drafting Luke, but I would still say is more likely than Smith.
You don't franchise a guy at a LT's salary and play him at guard.

You don't franchise a guy who you don't believe is a legit LT.

You have to read between the lines here.

When you put a Franchise tag on your LT, that means you believe he's a Franchise LT.

Pretty clear imo.

When Albert responds to people regarding the switch to Guard, he could very well be simply responding to the fans/media who incessantly label him a guard even though he's proven that he's a top 10 LT.

If the Chiefs thought he was a guard, they wouldn't have tagged him.
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Old 03-05-2013, 03:40 PM   #192
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The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it .
I want to cuddle you so hard right now over this post. +1
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I still believe there is a chance the Chiefs could take Geno. It depends on the compensation that the Chiefs have agreed to with the 49ers.

If it's truly this year's 2nd+ then i doubt it because they have decided that Alex Smith is the guy. An extension will be coming along with trade. If it's a swap of 2nd or something less then they could very well trade for Alex and draft Geno as a QBoTF.

Alex Smith will NOT be happy if the Chiefs draft a guy in the top 3 rounds though.
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Why the **** would Alex Smith get an extension?

He's only played a full season twice in his entire career.
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I still believe there is a chance the Chiefs could take Geno. It depends on the compensation that the Chiefs have agreed to with the 49ers.

If it's truly this year's 2nd+ then i doubt it because they have decided that Alex Smith is the guy. An extension will be coming along with trade. If it's a swap of 2nd or something less then they could very well trade for Alex and draft Geno as a QBoTF.

Alex Smith will NOT be happy if the Chiefs draft a guy in the top 3 rounds though.
Especially since he opted out of SFO for that exact reason and possibility.
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