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Old 03-05-2013, 10:03 AM  
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The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:05 PM   #631
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1) No ****ing way the Jets or Bills trade up to #1 lol.

2) The Medical issue with Winston was bogus. La Canfora was just wrong.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:18 PM   #632
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And what I linked were words DIRECTLY from Winston's mouth.

So which are you going to believe?
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:23 AM   #633
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Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.
I think they find a trade partner and end up taking Barkley.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:30 AM   #634
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I think they find a trade partner and end up taking Barkley.
The guy who won't throw in front of coaches, scouts and GM's until March 27th?

Yeah, that sounds like a great plan.
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:33 AM   #635
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I know this is going to sound crazy but I think we will trade back to wherever we can and are going to take EJ Manuel. I haven't watched all his games but I did see a few I just think he is going to be a better pro then college QB. I think he may be the best of this class. He has size above average arm he can run I think we are going to pass on Geno to take EJ.
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:06 AM   #636
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I know this is going to sound crazy but I think we will trade back to wherever we can and are going to take EJ Manuel. I haven't watched all his games but I did see a few I just think he is going to be a better pro then college QB. I think he may be the best of this class. He has size above average arm he can run I think we are going to pass on Geno to take EJ.
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:08 AM   #637
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Old 03-09-2013, 08:18 AM   #638
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I know this is going to sound crazy but I think we will trade back to wherever we can and are going to take EJ Manuel. I haven't watched all his games but I did see a few I just think he is going to be a better pro then college QB. I think he may be the best of this class. He has size above average arm he can run I think we are going to pass on Geno to take EJ.
Jesus...

Why not sign Jason Campbell as an UFA? Campbell is a better QB than Manuel at both the same stage and right now.
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Old 03-09-2013, 08:23 AM   #639
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Teams like cutting top ten players who are on affordable contracts all the time when the team is in no cap trouble whatsoever.
To your point here Boss, whether he really does or does not have medical issues just the fact he got cut say's they have a plan in place and will do a lot more maneuvering from the 12th on through draft day. This is a good thing

This cut also to some degree backs up Baldinger's interview about the serious concern for the O-line.
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Old 03-09-2013, 09:15 AM   #641
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somewhere SNR is still jacking off to Geno Smith.
Says the guy who thinks Tyrann Mathieu will be a great pro.
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Old 03-09-2013, 09:53 AM   #642
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great? I said he'd be a steal in the later rds.

nice try homo
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great? I said he'd be a steal in the later rds.

nice try homo
That's still pretty ****ing bad
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Old 03-09-2013, 09:58 AM   #644
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great? I said he'd be a steal in the later rds.

nice try homo
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great? I said he'd be a steal in the later rds.

nice try homo
petty sure you were on him in the second or third
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