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Old 03-05-2013, 10:03 AM  
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The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:37 AM   #766
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:39 AM   #767
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:48 AM   #768
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:11 AM   #769
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I am starting to feel bad for the geno hopefuls now lol
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:31 AM   #770
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I am starting to feel bad for the geno hopefuls now lol
I pretty much put Geno out of my sights as soon as the Smith trade happened for the price that it did.

At this point all I can hope for is a trade down. If we don't manage that, then I'm going to go kick Reid square in the balls for being such a ****ing idiot.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:33 AM   #771
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I pretty much put Geno out of my sights as soon as the Smith trade happened for the price that it did.

At this point all I can hope for is a trade down. If we don't manage that, then I'm going to go kick Reid square in the balls for being such a ****ing idiot.
Long shot. But what if the Cardinals aren't sold on Geno and the Bills decide they want to get Nassib in a later round? Imagine if Geno dropped out of the first. Problem there would be the Jaguars using their 33rd to trade down for someone who wanted to grab him in the 2nd.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:46 AM   #772
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Even then he wasnt that big of a bust. But true, because all of the elite qbs, have terrible coaching, and just rise above it right?


Lol, yes, everyone knows that Jim Harbaugh took alex smith from terrible to average. But lets not pretend that great coaching doesnt help great qbs......

It does.
Excuses excuses.

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Old 03-10-2013, 11:48 AM   #773
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thats what has always cracked me up. Without alex smith sucking, and the 49ers sucking, you dont have harbs, you dont have kaep. But yet and still, even though alex smith is giving you back essentially the same value you spent on him 8 years ago with a possibility of two seconds, you are crying like he stole your girl. Lol. get a life turd. Get a life.
this might be the most ignorant post of the last couple years.
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:50 AM   #774
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what are his stats for his two years with good coaching?

You haters always want to skip over this little fact.

Im sure that aaron rodgers, tom brady, drew brees would be the same qbs if they were in the same situations as alex smith.

Sure of it. Not excuses truth. I know alex has limits as an average qb, but for guys to try to make light of the coaching and front office mishandlings is funny at best. I mean, chiefs fans certainly shouldnt and wouldnt understand that. I mean, your front office just got canned, and you cant even say pioli on this board, and im sure you guys just feel bad as hell for romeo crennell, and really miss todd haley right?
He has limits as an average qb, but you compare him to Rodgers and Brady.

Guess what ? You are making excuses again. Rodgers and Brady don't have the limitations of being average
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Old 03-10-2013, 11:51 AM   #775
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If by aids, you mean truth. You miss pioli dont you? Dumbass. I pointed out facts you couldnt deny. So you go all retard with it. Cool with me. Just lets me know what I already knew. You are a dumbass.
What facts?


That you think coaching held him back?
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If by aids, you mean truth. You miss ***** dont you? Dumbass. I pointed out facts you couldnt deny. So you go all retard with it. Cool with me. Just lets me know what I already knew. You are a dumbass.
I've never seen someone obsess this much over a back-up QB. It's quite astonishing.
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Old 03-10-2013, 12:04 PM   #777
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I've never seen someone obsess this much over a back-up QB. It's quite astonishing.
He's probably from Utah. I nearly got into a fist fight with about five guys in the bar when they announced the possible Alex Smith deal.

Them...

"Alex is awesome!"

"Chiefs are going to the Super Bowl!"

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Me...

"****."
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Old 03-10-2013, 12:07 PM   #778
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He's probably from Utah. I nearly got into a fist fight with about five guys in the bar when they announced the possible Alex Smith deal.
On top of being a shitty football player, Alex Smith is a mormon.

So I hate this prick worse than Cassel, I'm sure.
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Old 03-10-2013, 12:11 PM   #779
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On top of being a shitty football player, Alex Smith is a mormon.

So I hate this prick worse than Cassel, I'm sure.
49ers love mormon QBs. That said, it has little bearing on anything. You can be "mormon" and not practice anything. I blame his parents.
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Old 03-10-2013, 12:41 PM   #780
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They didn't give him a cemented starter contract...they gave him a stopgap 3 year deal.

The same deal I've read we aren't gonna extend.
this is the problem. CP vets scream, "we dont need niners turds coming here telling us about alex smiff. he sucks, we know. we have done this before."

Then CP members spew insane garbage because they dont have a clue.

The reason Alex Smith was given the contract he was given, was because it was a one year deal essentially. Jim Harbaugh, told his own father that he thought colin kaepernick was the best player in the DRAFT. Jim Harbaugh shortly after taking the 49ers job, asked andrew luck if there were any qbs that stood out while he was at the mannings passing camp, andrew told him colin kaepernick. Jim and Baalke went and held a work out with him. Colin Kaepernick, was, and is Jim Harbaughs hand picked qb. Alex Smith was a serviceable place holder until Kaep was ready.

Alex Smith, is andy reids serviceable placeholder until andy reids qb is ready.

You think you know about alex smith, but the truth is that you dont. You think you know, but your information is all about what you have heard stephen a smith say or some other nfl network hack, and doesnt hold a candle to what true niner fans know.
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