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Old 03-05-2013, 10:03 AM  
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The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:12 PM   #842
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Troy Brown, Deion Branch, Tight end christian fauria.

Again, this was more about a defense that had a young willie mcginnest, mike vrabel, tedi brusci, ty law, lawyer milloy, asante samuel.

Way more than about the offense which was okay. It wasnt great, but they got the job done. But it was their defense.

Tom Brady was placed in a situation to succeed. To suggest that aaron rodgers, and tom brady have been placed in ideal situations to succeed, just like matt ryan, and then to turn around and say that guys like tim couch, alex smith, david carr, werent, to a lot of people is excuses.

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Old 03-11-2013, 07:14 PM   #844
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If Alex can win 11-12 games and a postseason game with this current Chief squad I'll be impressed, heh. It's a win now move, so anything less than that is a crock of shit. Waste 2 early draft picks for 8-8? No ****ing thanks.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:16 PM   #845
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:17 PM   #846
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:18 PM   #847
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3 first round O lineman, Davis, Gore, Crabtree, an absolute loaded defense with 4 All Pro caliber players.

Chiefs have about 8 Pro Bowl quality players themselves, so there really isn't any excuse not to win games in KC with competent QB play. There will be no excuses for Alexis.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:22 PM   #848
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Folks - this is one of the things we've tried to warn you about w/ Alex Smith. This thread is titled:

"The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it"

It has now devolved into an Alex Smith Sucks thread. THIS is what you have to look forward to as long as he is a Chief, which, in case you've forgotten, happens officially TOMORROW.



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Old 03-11-2013, 07:22 PM   #849
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If Alex can win 11-12 games and a postseason game with this current Chief squad I'll be impressed, heh. It's a win now move, so anything less than that is a crock of shit. Waste 2 early draft picks for 8-8? No ****ing thanks.
So basically Steve Bono '95 (13 - 3, 1st round playoff loss) & Elvis Grbac '97 (13 - 3, 1st round playoff loss) with a playoff win.

Or Joe Montana '93 (11 - 5, 2 playoff wins).

This is what we are looking forward too as fans? This is what we are rooting for and paying for?

Will this help spike merch. sales for the team? Pack the parking lot? Get KC on Monday & Sunday Night Football?
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So basically Steve Bono '95 (13 - 3, 1st round playoff loss) & Elvis Grbac '97 (13 - 3, 1st round playoff loss) with a playoff win.

Or Joe Montana '93 (11 - 5, 2 playoff wins).

This is what we are looking forward too as fans? This is what we are rooting for and paying for?

Will this help spike merch. sales for the team? Pack the parking lot? Get KC on Monday & Sunday Night Football?
Expecting him to win a SuperBowl a year after 2-14 would be a bit ridiculous don't you think? Cmon man, I'm harsh, but not that much. JFC I'm already holding a 9 win improvement to him or fail.
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Expecting him to win a SuperBowl a year after 2-14 would be a bit ridiculous don't you think? Cmon man, I'm harsh, but not that much. JFC I'm already holding a 9 win improvement to him or fail.
A 2 - 14 team with 6 Pro Bowlers. You can make an argument that some of those players were not worthy of a Pro Bowl berth. But normally a 2 - 14 team only sends the kicker or the punter to the Pro Bowl.

The 2 - 14 record had more to do with the total crap coaching staff and piss poor QB play than anything else. Don't forget, KC was only 4 - 12 the year before Marty came to town. Marty was able to get 8 wins out of the '89 team.

I understand your point but KC was not your "normal" 2 - 14 team.
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A 2 - 14 team with 6 Pro Bowlers. You can make an argument that some of those players were not worthy of a Pro Bowl berth. But normally a 2 - 14 team only sends the kicker or the punter to the Pro Bowl.

The 2 - 14 record had more to do with the total crap coaching staff and piss poor QB play than anything else. Don't forget, KC was only 4 - 12 the year before Marty came to town. Marty was able to get 8 wins out of the '89 team.

I understand your point but KC was not your "normal" 2 - 14 team.
Absolutely. Which is why I expect the team can make the playoffs with good QB play. Can Alex deliver? I think we got hosed, but hey he'll get a shot to prove me wrong.
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Absolutely. Which is why I expect the team can make the playoffs with good QB play. Can Alex deliver? I think we got hosed, but hey he'll get a shot to prove me wrong.
That's why I really can't get to excited about next year. I can see KC going 10 - 6 / 11 - 5 and making the playoffs with another one and done.

Been down this road waaaaay to many times to get excited. Perhaps the draft will change my outlook (Geno please, would settle for Bray) but right now I can't get that excited.
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