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Old 03-05-2013, 10:03 AM  
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The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:15 PM   #871
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Never gonna happen. Geno is absolutely going #1. Just not to the Chiefs.
No one is trading with you guy. You are taking your LT.

They will trade with the Jaguars to move up.
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:17 PM   #872
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No one is trading with you guy. You are taking your LT.

They will trade with the Jaguars to move up.
No one is trading up to #2 when they know that #1 is up for sale. Whoopty shit, you just gave up two firsts and a third! For... star lotuleilei at #2. Because someone else gave up two firsts and a third for Geno Smith at #1.

Why do you ****ing idiots insist on thinking that teams trade with the team that wants to draft their guy? They trade with the team AHEAD of that team. And no one trades to #2 when #1 is for sale.
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:34 PM   #873
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:35 PM   #874
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No one is trading up to #2 when they know that #1 is up for sale. Whoopty shit, you just gave up two firsts and a third! For... star lotuleilei at #2. Because someone else gave up two firsts and a third for Geno Smith at #1.

Why do you ****ing idiots insist on thinking that teams trade with the team that wants to draft their guy? They trade with the team AHEAD of that team. And no one trades to #2 when #1 is for sale.
The only way they would trade up to #1, is if it cost less than the #2 offer. Why would they need to trade up to #1 to get a guy that isn't being taken by anyone in the top 6?

You are ****ing stupid lol
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Old 03-12-2013, 06:42 PM   #875
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The only way they would trade up to #1, is if it cost less than the #2 offer. Why would they need to trade up to #1 to get a guy that isn't being taken by anyone in the top 6?

You are ****ing stupid lol
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:40 AM   #876
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A part of me doesn't feel like Geno Smith gets past #2 w/ Jags, so it wouldn't surprise me to see the Bills try to get that #1 pick from KC
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Old 03-13-2013, 11:43 AM   #877
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Emory Hunt‏@FBallGameplan

A part of me doesn't feel like Geno Smith gets past #2 w/ Jags, so it wouldn't surprise me to see the Bills try to get that #1 pick from KC
The biggest hiccup with that, is Reid/Dorsey have to have someone they want that they know can fall to them at #8. Because if they really want Fisher or Joeckel, is isn't happening at #8.
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The biggest hiccup with that, is Reid/Dorsey have to have someone they want that they know can fall to them at #8. Because if they really want Fisher or Joeckel, is isn't happening at #8.
Lol, Im pretty sure they would love to trade down to #8 or even lower if the value is there in the trade.
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Lol, Im pretty sure they would love to trade down to #8 or even lower if the value is there in the trade.
Big IF. We have 0 indication that the Bills are even looking to trade up for Geno. For all we know they should be looking to trade up in the second round for Nassib, or get a QB in FA.

Alot of the assumptions here are just Chief fans saying what they WANT to have happen.
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A part of me doesn't feel like Geno Smith gets past #2 w/ Jags, so it wouldn't surprise me to see the Bills try to get that #1 pick from KC
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