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Old 03-05-2013, 10:03 AM  
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The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it
Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:30 AM   #91
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I still think that they're going do everything they can to trade down. I'm just not going to close my eyes, put my fingers in my ears and refuse to believe that they won't draft a QB at 1.1.

EDIT: I'm not saying that you are....BTW.
to me, it is absolutely trade down or bust because I've already come to the realization Geno isn't going #1...

of course, the Eric Berry year EVERYONE had us taking Okung until draft day when people started saying, 'meh, maybe Berry after all!' and when it happened it was COMPLETE AWESOMENESS/BEST FEELING EVER!

so as of now I refuse to believe we're taking QB at #1 after the Smith trade...but if it happens, and the scenario I just posted is the master plan...then it'll be the Eric Berry pick all over again times a trillion.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:30 AM   #92
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Then why would he need to waste a #1 overall pick on a backup when he can draft one either in the later rounds, or draft one next year, or the year after?
If signs a decent free agent CB and DL, he will have the luxury of using the # 1 for Geno because we'll have no more gaping holes to fill.

The rest of the draft will be used to add a WR and depth at other positions.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:31 AM   #93
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There were people ready to storm Arrowhead with torches and pitchforks if they "wasted" the #1 pick on a quarterback before the Alex Smith trade.

If they took a QB with that pick now, the KC area would suffer an epidemic of family annihilator killings, with mom and the kids dead in their beds and dad's body seated in his worn out easychair with the big framed poster of Marty Schottenheimer behind him.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:31 AM   #94
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Newsflash: Alex Smith will not be starting by week 16
THIS he takes sacks like fat old ladies taking farter starters...concussion , injuries...benchings....gotta gotta have a good young backup..
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to me, it is absolutely trade down or bust because I've already come to the realization Geno isn't going #1...

of course, the Eric Berry year EVERYONE had us taking Okung until draft day when people started saying, 'meh, maybe Berry after all!' and when it happened it was COMPLETE AWESOMENESS/BEST FEELING EVER!

so as of now I refuse to believe we're taking QB at #1 after the Smith trade...but if it happens, and the scenario I just posted is the master plan...then it'll be the Eric Berry pick all over again times a trillion.
I wouldn't be surprised if they trade down and still grab a QB.

Maybe the Eagles want to trade up and grab a LT or maybe they want to trade up for Geno Smith. So we trade down to #4.....get a 2nd round pick.....and we take Barkley at #4.

Nobody knows what the **** they're going to do right now.
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I just said trade back.
And pick who?
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:37 AM   #97
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And pick who?
Whoever they want. The question was, what do they do with 1.1?
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No, it wouldn't. If they took a QB....this fanbase would defer to Andy Reid and John Dorsey and claim that they know what they're doing.....like they do with every pick the Chiefs make.
There are legions of people opposed to taking a quarterback. They've spent the last week celebrating their righteous victory and ordering Alex Smith fatheads. There are plenty who would just fall in line, but those aren't the ones who've spent the last two months drawing lines in the sand.
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Whoever they want. The question was, what do they do with 1.1?
Way to stretch there.

I called Dontari Poe. I now call the Chiefs take whoever they want. LISTEN TO ME!
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The day we signed Alex I said there was a 50-50 chance we drafted Geno or another QB and everyone was up in arms and convinced it would he Joekel. My how quick people here change.
Same here!
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lol, I can't believe people actually think after what they gave up for Smith, the Chiefs are gonna spend their first pick on another QB.

The Chiefs made a commitment to Smith, just like Pioli made a commitment to Cassel when he was brought in.

Alex Smith is our unquestioned starting QB in 2013, 2014 and probably 2015. Enjoy!
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:50 AM   #103
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lol, I can't believe people actually think after what they gave up for Smith, the Chiefs are gonna spend their first pick on another QB.

The Chiefs made a commitment to Smith, just like ***** made a commitment to Cassel when he was brought in.

Alex Smith is our unquestioned starting QB in 2013, 2014 and probably 2015. Enjoy!
Cry me a geno, you and blackbob should get a room. WE ARE TAKING GENO #1!! GTFOVERIT!
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Way to stretch there.

I called Dontari Poe. I now call the Chiefs take whoever they want. LISTEN TO ME!
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Funny/ironic sidenote:
Thumbing through Lindys draft analysis of Geno-

NFL comparison:

Alex Smith...with a more accurate deep ball. lol
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