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Old 03-05-2013, 05:09 PM  
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Holder: Drone strikes against Americans on U.S. soil are legal

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“It is possible, I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States,” Holder replied in a letter yesterday to Paul’s question about whether Obama “has the power to authorize lethal force, such as a drone strike, against a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil, and without trial.”

[Rand] Paul condemned the idea. “The U.S. Attorney General’s refusal to rule out the possibility of drone strikes on American citizens and on American soil is more than frightening – it is an affront the Constitutional due process rights of all Americans,” he said in a statement.
I like the response by Clarity2016 to this:
"I have a feeling a large majority of Americans would support a Constitutional Amendment outlawing the use of drone strikes on American soil against our citizenry. Why don't we just pass that so that there isn't any ambiguity for Mr. Holder?"

Sounds like a good idea.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:40 AM   #61
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The answer is ALWAYS aliens!!

Edit: except for when it's KOOKS
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:37 AM   #62
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but we're all kooks for saying this would happen, months ago.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:56 PM   #63
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but we're all kooks for saying this would happen, months ago.
What happened?
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:05 PM   #64
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These drones?



http://www.businessinsider.com/the-f...lovejoy-2012-6

It's been several years since the rumors and sightings of insect sized micro drones started popping up around the world.

Vanessa Alarcon was a college student when she attended a 2007 anti-war protest in Washington, D.C. and heard someone shout, "Oh my God, look at those."

"I look up and I'm like, 'What the hell is that?'" she told The Washington Post. "They looked like dragonflies or little helicopters. But I mean, those are not insects," she continued.

A lawyer there at the time confirmed they looked like dragonflies, but that they "definitely weren't insects".

And he's probably right.

In 2006 Flight International reported that the CIA had been developing micro UAVs as far back as the 1970s and had a mock-up in its Langley headquarters since 2003.

While we can go on listing roachbots, swarming nano drones, and synchronized MIT robots — private trader and former software engineer Alan Lovejoy points out that the future of nano drones could become even more unsettling.

Lovejoy found this CGI mock up of a mosquito drone equipped with the 'ability' to take DNA samples or possible inject objects beneath the skin.

According to Lovejoy:

Such a device could be controlled from a great distance and is equipped with a camera, microphone. It could land on you and then use its needle to take a DNA sample with the pain of a mosquito bite. Or it could inject a micro RFID tracking device under your skin.

It could land on you and stay, so that you take it with you into your home. Or it could fly into a building through a window. There are well-funded research projects working on such devices with such capabilities.

He offers some good links though his Google+ page and Ms. Smith at Network World offers up even more.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-f...#ixzz2MsNO6wjM
Good Lord, thats creepiest nano-drone i've ever seen.
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:14 PM   #65
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Good Lord, thats creepiest CGI nano-drone i've ever seen.
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:18 PM   #66
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Hmm, i didnt consider that possibility, but a lot of money is being poured into stuff just like it.
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:14 PM   #67
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but we're all kooks for saying this would happen, months ago.
And you still are kooks.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:19 AM   #68
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Good Lord, thats creepiest nano-drone i've ever seen.
How many nano-drones have you seen?
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:35 AM   #69
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but we're all kooks for saying this would happen, months ago.
Paul and Schiff were kooks for calling a bad recession coming 5 years earlier, even without all the official govt markers. These are just arbitraries decided for political purposes. It wasn't happening even per Rs. But we don't need no stinkin' govt markers.
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Old 03-08-2013, 07:40 AM   #70
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How many nano-drones have you seen?
On these two really cool new entertainment mediums called television and magazines, you should check'em out sometime
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:50 AM   #72
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On these two really cool new entertainment mediums called television and magazines, you should check'em out sometime
I will, thanks. Now, could you tell me, HOW many who have seen and not where you saw them?
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:51 AM   #73
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That was AWESOME!!
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:59 AM   #74
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I will, thanks. Now, could you tell me, HOW many who have seen and not where you saw them?
Here's one, planned for personal use:




MeCam $49 flying camera concept follows you around, streams video to your phone

Always Innovating is working on a tiny flying video camera called the MeCam. The camera is designed to follow you around and stream live video to your smartphone, allowing you to upload videos to YouTube, Facebook, or other sites.

And Always Innovating thinks the MeCam could eventually sell for just $49

The camera is docked in a nano copter with 4 spinning rotors to keep it aloft. There are 14 different sensors which help the copter detect objects around it so it won’t bump into walls, people. or anything else.

Always Innovating also includes stabilization technology so that videos shouldn’t look too shaky.

Interestingly, there’s no remote control. Instead, you can control the MeCam in one of two ways. You can speak voice commands to tell it, for instance, to move up or down. Or you can enable the “follow-me” feature which tells the camera to just follow you around while shooting paparazzi-style video.

The MeCam features an Always Innovating module with an ARM Cortex-A9 processor, 1GB of RAM, WiFI, and Bluetooth.

The company hopes to license the design so that products based on the MeCam will hit the streets in early 2014.

If Always Innovating sounds familiar, that’s because it’s the same company that brought us the modular Touch Book and Smart Book products a few years ago.

If the MeCam name sounds familiar, on the other hand, it’s probably worth pointing out that the Always Innovating flying camera is not related the wearable camera that failed to come close to meeting its fundraising goals last year
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Here's another:

The British military has taken stealth to a new level. In Afghanistan, troops fly drones the size of a hamster. The Norwegian-manufactured machines currently rank as the world’s smallest military-grade spy drone, weighing just 16 grams and measuring at 4 inches long. Dubbed the Black Hornet, the sneaky little choppers carry just a steerable camera that takes still and video images, Wired reports.

British soldiers use the tiny drones to spy on insurgent firing points and survey exposed areas before moving in. The Black Hornet acts as a one-man intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance package, filtering information directly to the individual behind the controls rather than a company or supply chain of operators. In other words, the bot acts as as the remote-controlled eyes of a single soldier. Soldiers control the drone with a mouse-like device and view images on a screen akin to a Game Boy console.

The U.S. smallest drone, the Raven, can fit into a rucksack but is a giant next to the Black Hornet. From here, these little spy machines can only get smaller. The Pentagon’s already working on a drone the size of a hummingbird; perhaps soon we’ll see drones the size of honey bees or gnats.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013...k-hornet-nano/
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