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Old 03-07-2013, 12:49 PM  
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Chiefs hope to keep Dorsey

Chiefs hope to keep Dorsey, but Starks tag could complicate things

Posted by Mike Florio on March 7, 2013, 10:08 AM EST

Five years ago, the Chiefs picked defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey with the fifth overall selection in the draft.

The next year, the 4-3 interior lineman saw the Chiefs install a 3-4 defense.

And while the Chiefs are sticking with a 3-4 defense under new coach Andy Reid, they hope to keep Dorsey on the roster.

But here’s the problem, from the Chiefs’ perspective. The removal of Dolphins defensive tackle Randy Starks from the open market via the franchise tag is expected to result in more interest in Dorsey.

Unless a new deal is done between Dorsey and the Chiefs in the next two days, Dorsey will be able to explore the open market, via his agent talking to the teams.
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:39 PM   #16
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I'm cool with keeping him for the right money, he'll never be what was hoped, but he still has a place in the league.

He's been a solid citizen here and will be decent depth.
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:41 PM   #17
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FWIW, I seem to remember Mitch and Lenny saying on a broadcast that Dorsey was a good teammate with good work ethic and one of the better attitudes in the locker room.
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:41 PM   #18
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:42 PM   #19
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Poe and Jackson as the ends and Dorsey in the middle.

2 year 7-8 million total.
four years of this and you are still barking about how Dorsey is magically should be plugged in as a NT in a 34

news flash, Glenn Dorsey will never and can not be a NT in a 34. Sorry to bust your dream bubble but after 4 years you'd think these stupid magical positional switch ideas would flame out
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Aren't we going to a 1 gap system? Or will we mix it up? Anyone know if all three down linemen in the base front are 1 gap with Sutton, or if he mixes it up? What's his most common base alignment (are the ends lined up at the 5, or in the gaps?) and for nickel and dime?

The answer to those questions can help us try to predict what mid to late rounders we will likely target.
I was going to make a LNBS thread last night about Bob Newhart and the 3-4. Looking at history and various alignments in his short stead as DC in New York.

He's all over the place. The guy has coached everything. Seems to be a jack of all trades but a master of none.

The good news is expect the Chiefs to mix shit up to keep offenses off guard. Whether those change-ups are any good is a different story.

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Old 03-07-2013, 03:11 PM   #21
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four years of this and you are still barking about how Dorsey is magically should be plugged in as a NT in a 34

news flash, Glenn Dorsey will never and can not be a NT in a 34. Sorry to bust your dream bubble but after 4 years you'd think these stupid magical positional switch ideas would flame out
This. Totally this.
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four years of this and you are still barking about how Dorsey is magically should be plugged in as a NT in a 34

news flash, Glenn Dorsey will never and can not be a NT in a 34. Sorry to bust your dream bubble but after 4 years you'd think these stupid magical positional switch ideas would flame out
I've never said he should be a 2 gap nose, but I have said for that long that he should be tried as a 1gap nose. I've said since 2010 (when there was a chance we would have been able to hire Wade Phillips as the dc, but his cowboys won a playoff game and he was kept for another year) that we should have been running a 1 gap attacking 3-4 and that Dorseys skill set coming out of college fits the requirement of that position.

I don't care if you disagree.

This will be the first year that it's actually possible.
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Old 03-07-2013, 04:06 PM   #23
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If Dorsey can't win 1 on 1's against RGs playing the 3, there is no way he wins double teams playing a shaded 1 in a 1-gap as a NT. It isn't happening.
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but no you people don't understand -- dorsey is out qbotf he just needs some time
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four years of this and you are still barking about how Dorsey is magically should be plugged in as a NT in a 34

news flash, Glenn Dorsey will never and can not be a NT in a 34. Sorry to bust your dream bubble but after 4 years you'd think these stupid magical positional switch ideas would flame out
I bet JJ Watt could play any position. The scheme bullshit gets tired.
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I bet JJ Watt could play any position. The scheme bullshit gets tired.
JJ Watt would be an exceptional nickel/dime corner IMO.
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