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Old 03-07-2013, 01:49 PM  
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Chiefs hope to keep Dorsey

Chiefs hope to keep Dorsey, but Starks tag could complicate things

Posted by Mike Florio on March 7, 2013, 10:08 AM EST

Five years ago, the Chiefs picked defensive tackle Glenn Dorsey with the fifth overall selection in the draft.

The next year, the 4-3 interior lineman saw the Chiefs install a 3-4 defense.

And while the Chiefs are sticking with a 3-4 defense under new coach Andy Reid, they hope to keep Dorsey on the roster.

But here’s the problem, from the Chiefs’ perspective. The removal of Dolphins defensive tackle Randy Starks from the open market via the franchise tag is expected to result in more interest in Dorsey.

Unless a new deal is done between Dorsey and the Chiefs in the next two days, Dorsey will be able to explore the open market, via his agent talking to the teams.
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:19 PM   #46
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Dorsey just can't rush the passer. Given his explosiveness in college he should have been able to, but that ability never translated. I wonder if he ever recovered from that leg injury.
Probably not. He's never looked explosive in the NFL for a full game.
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:33 PM   #47
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I remember that we supposedly got through steal of the draft that year.
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:44 PM   #48
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I remember that we supposedly got through steal of the draft that year.
I'm not sure what the **** you are saying.
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Old 03-07-2013, 09:57 PM   #49
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Dorsey just can't rush the passer. Given his explosiveness in college he should have been able to, but that ability never translated. I wonder if he ever recovered from that leg injury.
That's the reason that Boss keeps hanging onto the 1-gap NT dream.

Dorsey's initial quick explosive burst at the snap while at LSU was as disruptive as any D-Lineman in college in the last ten years.

If he still had that burst, he'd be ideal as a 1-gap nose.

But he doesn't, so it's a lost dream.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:16 PM   #50
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Are those skills gone due to injury, or have they just been numbed after 3 years of being coached that his responsibility is to hold his ground and let the guys behind him make the play? I think if he gets a year to play in our new scheme, he will start to show very promising signs by years end.

If we are moving to a 1gap system, as has been reported, and the staff says they'd like to bring Dorsey back...they obviously think he can be effective in it.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:42 PM   #51
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Are those skills gone due to injury, or have they just been numbed after 3 years of being coached that his responsibility is to hold his ground and let the guys behind him make the play? I think if he gets a year to play in our new scheme, he will start to show very promising signs by years end.

If we are moving to a 1gap system, as has been reported, and the staff says they'd like to bring Dorsey back...they obviously think he can be effective in it.
When he played the 3 tech in subs, he was inadequate. I can't see how he'd be better playing a 0 or shade.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:52 PM   #52
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When he played the 3 tech in subs, he was inadequate. I can't see how he'd be better playing a 0 or shade.
Warren Sapp still calls the 3-4 years in Oakland his worst time in the NFL.

It's because his speed, quickness, athleticism and get off were wasted.

If we can get Glenn back on a "show me" short term deal, it could be an extremely high reward and low risk.

I doubt anyone else is willing to offer him a substantial contract at this point...it's worth the risk.
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:58 PM   #53
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Im sure Glenn Dorsey will be signed tomorrow if he signs at all with us, he might wana go to Chicago on a short deal or Tampa
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:01 PM   #54
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My guess is he goes to NO.
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Warren Sapp still calls the 3-4 years in Oakland his worst time in the NFL.

It's because his speed, quickness, athleticism and get off were wasted.

If we can get Glenn back on a "show me" short term deal, it could be an extremely high reward and low risk.

I doubt anyone else is willing to offer him a substantial contract at this point...it's worth the risk.
I don't disagree with offering Dorsey a contract; it ensures continuity and at the very least enables KC a solid run stopper. That being said, he'll never be an effective pass rusher, whether from the 0,1,2,3,4, or 5 tech. He just isn't good at it. His speed, quickness, athleticism, pass rush skills weren't wasted previously. He was given ample opportunities to show he could rush the passer from various techniques and he failed.

If you want to keep him as a 1 down player on a vet min contract to hold up against the run on 2nd down (the majority of teams throw on 1st down IIRC), that's fine. To expect him to turn into a hand-fighting, explosive, pressure machine from the 0/1 tech is entirely different.
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:14 PM   #56
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four years of this and you are still barking about how Dorsey is magically should be plugged in as a NT in a 34

news flash, Glenn Dorsey will never and can not be a NT in a 34. Sorry to bust your dream bubble but after 4 years you'd think these stupid magical positional switch ideas would flame out
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I can't believe there are still dumbasses who don't understand what a 2 gap DL is instructed to do, much less that Dorsey did exactly as he was instructed to very, very well.
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Heard that Dorsey was gonna retire "to spend more time with his family and finally get his degree."
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I don't know why he would re-sign here for cheap...didn't he void a year of his deal? I saw that we have 3.5 million in dead money this year from him...I figured that was due to a void.
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