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Old 03-08-2013, 12:24 AM  
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It's time we ban pitbulls

Enough is enough. These dogs are way too strong & unpredictable. Plus, they are normally owned by the wrong people. Deadly combo right there.

This latest pitbull attack is absolutely heartbreaking.

A 14-month-old Wisconsin boy has died after a brutal attack by a pair of pit bulls, authorities said on Thursday.
Police received a call from Susan Iwicki, 30, on Wednesday saying that she and the young boy were being attacked by the dogs, according to local NBC affiliate WMTV. Iwicki told police that she and the boy had each sustained injuries.

The boy died of his injuries at a Milwaukee area hospital later on Wednesday, the Walworth County sheriff’s office said, according to The Associated Press.
The boy had the “biggest eyes, great smile,” family friend Valerie Brylow told local affiliate WTMJ. “He was a great little boy.”
“He is adorable, absolutely adorable,” Nicole Jennison, another family friend told the station.
The boy’s name has not been released, and an investigation continues. Both of the pit bulls were removed from the property and euthanized on Wednesday, WMTV reported.
The fatal dog attack was the first in Wisconsin in a decade, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.


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Old 03-09-2013, 03:50 PM   #211
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Some dumbshit, unleashed pit came running up on my dog and I today. Wish I would have stabbed it.
I'd make sure that knife had some good size to it before i did...
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Old 03-09-2013, 03:54 PM   #212
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That argument borders dangerously close to the banning of guns argument. Careful now.
This IS the weapons argument. You could say you want to ban the devil and someone in America would cry fowl.
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:18 PM   #213
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Why are the vast majority of dog-bite fatalities caused by pit bulls?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States

This is what you call prima facie evidence that pit bulls are dangerous.

The pit bull lovers refuse to acknowledge this, but the fact is that pit bulls are dangerous because they have such a powerful bite. All it takes it one second in the lifetime of the dog for a tragedy to occur.

A few years ago I had a Yorkie who was the most gentle dog in the world. One day we were playing, and the most gentle dog in the world suddenly bit me on the hand. He immediately realized what he had done, looked me in the eye with the most human look I've ever seen on a dog, and then he ran like hell. His bite didn't even break the skin. If that Yorkie had been a pit bull, I'd have pulled back a bloody stump. And instead of running away, he may very well have decided to just finish me off, because pit bulls are known to do that and have the strength to do that. If my Yorkie had tried to finish me off, I'd have picked him and thrown him against the wall.

Some animals are just too dangerous to have in a home, especially a home with children or in a neighborhood with children. I don't give a shit about the anecdotal evidence people provide about their personal pit bulls who were perfect little angels and the bestest dogs ever. 99% of them may be, but the 1% who are killers make the breed too dangerous to have as pets. It's trivially easy to find reports of children killed by the family pit bull. Invariably the parents are hysterically sobbing "But he was the most gentle animal ever! He never bit anyone ever ever before!"

Banning pit bulls is nothing like banning guns. An unattended gun won't escape from its pen or jump a fence and kill people. Pit Bulls can and do.

Hog Farmer nailed it when he said "Guns don't kill people. Pit bulls do.".
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:41 PM   #214
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Pitbull owner here. Sorry to hear the latest news. I hear these stories all the time and they worry me because I don't know have a full understanding of what triggers the attacks.

My dog is absolutely kind and loving and I try not to live in fear of him losing his sanity. But I totally get the anti-pit sentiment. It's a shame people only hear the bad news about them.

What's worse is many adoption agencies hide the terrier when advertising the breed of the dog people are adopting. I'll bet many people think they have a retriever, lab, or shepherd mix but if you look up staffordshire terrier you just might recognize facial features of a dog near you. We were told our dog was lab, retriever mix and turns out the blood work revealed he was staffie (pit), shepherd, and Finnish spitz.

There are breed bans in many counties around me and in every bordering state. My dog is discriminated against by every kennel, most veterinarians and others because he "looks like a pit". He is but I had to get the blood work to know for sure.

I'm not giving him up. You'll have to come and get him. He's never done anything to anyone. But I suppose the possibility is enough to make people lose their heads about it.
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:55 PM   #215
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Pitbull owner here. Sorry to hear the latest news. I hear these stories all the time and they worry me because I don't know have a full understanding of what triggers the attacks.

My dog is absolutely kind and loving and I try not to live in fear of him losing his sanity. But I totally get the anti-pit sentiment. It's a shame people only hear the bad news about them.

What's worse is many adoption agencies hide the terrier when advertising the breed of the dog people are adopting. I'll bet many people think they have a retriever, lab, or shepherd mix but if you look up staffordshire terrier you just might recognize facial features of a dog near you. We were told our dog was lab, retriever mix and turns out the blood work revealed he was staffie (pit), shepherd, and Finnish spitz.

There are breed bans in many counties around me and in every bordering state. My dog is discriminated against by every kennel, most veterinarians and others because he "looks like a pit". He is but I had to get the blood work to know for sure.

I'm not giving him up. You'll have to come and get him. He's never done anything to anyone. But I suppose the possibility is enough to make people lose their heads about it.
That was excellent post, except for the last sentence. Banning a dangerous breed isn't "losing your head about it".

A reasonable compromise would probably be to grandfather in existing pit bulls, but ban any new ones.
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Old 03-09-2013, 05:02 PM   #216
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Pitbull owner here. Sorry to hear the latest news. I hear these stories all the time and they worry me because I don't know have a full understanding of what triggers the attacks.

My dog is absolutely kind and loving and I try not to live in fear of him losing his sanity. But I totally get the anti-pit sentiment. It's a shame people only hear the bad news about them.

What's worse is many adoption agencies hide the terrier when advertising the breed of the dog people are adopting. I'll bet many people think they have a retriever, lab, or shepherd mix but if you look up staffordshire terrier you just might recognize facial features of a dog near you. We were told our dog was lab, retriever mix and turns out the blood work revealed he was staffie (pit), shepherd, and Finnish spitz.

There are breed bans in many counties around me and in every bordering state. My dog is discriminated against by every kennel, most veterinarians and others because he "looks like a pit". He is but I had to get the blood work to know for sure.

I'm not giving him up. You'll have to come and get him. He's never done anything to anyone. But I suppose the possibility is enough to make people lose their heads about it.
I adopted a lab retreiver mix 3 weeks ago when I asked what else it was they said they weren't sure. It looks like a pit bull and I really hope its how you raise them more then anything else he came from a high kill shelter he is only 14 weeks and so far so good but I can tell you when we play he is strong but he is very sweet. He is also very fearless I have a deck in that back of my house that has a 4 foot drop and I had him out there today and he leaped right off of it. I am a big guy so no matter how big he gets I will always be able to handle him but I just hope he stays good. I f anyone has any advice let me know.
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Old 03-09-2013, 05:21 PM   #217
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I adopted a lab retreiver mix 3 weeks ago when I asked what else it was they said they weren't sure. It looks like a pit bull and I really hope its how you raise them more then anything else he came from a high kill shelter he is only 14 weeks and so far so good but I can tell you when we play he is strong but he is very sweet. He is also very fearless I have a deck in that back of my house that has a 4 foot drop and I had him out there today and he leaped right off of it. I am a big guy so no matter how big he gets I will always be able to handle him but I just hope he stays good. I f anyone has any advice let me know.

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Old 03-09-2013, 05:26 PM   #218
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Old 03-09-2013, 05:28 PM   #219
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I haven't read the rest of this thread, but I say we ban all things that kill one person every ten years in Wisconsin.











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Why are the vast majority of dog-bite fatalities caused by pit bulls?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._United_States

This is what you call prima facie evidence that pit bulls are dangerous.

The pit bull lovers refuse to acknowledge this, but the fact is that pit bulls are dangerous because they have such a powerful bite. All it takes it one second in the lifetime of the dog for a tragedy to occur.

A few years ago I had a Yorkie who was the most gentle dog in the world. One day we were playing, and the most gentle dog in the world suddenly bit me on the hand. He immediately realized what he had done, looked me in the eye with the most human look I've ever seen on a dog, and then he ran like hell. His bite didn't even break the skin. If that Yorkie had been a pit bull, I'd have pulled back a bloody stump. And instead of running away, he may very well have decided to just finish me off, because pit bulls are known to do that and have the strength to do that. If my Yorkie had tried to finish me off, I'd have picked him and thrown him against the wall.

Some animals are just too dangerous to have in a home, especially a home with children or in a neighborhood with children. I don't give a shit about the anecdotal evidence people provide about their personal pit bulls who were perfect little angels and the bestest dogs ever. 99% of them may be, but the 1% who are killers make the breed too dangerous to have as pets. It's trivially easy to find reports of children killed by the family pit bull. Invariably the parents are hysterically sobbing "But he was the most gentle animal ever! He never bit anyone ever ever before!"

Banning pit bulls is nothing like banning guns. An unattended gun won't escape from its pen or jump a fence and kill people. Pit Bulls can and do.

Hog Farmer nailed it when he said "Guns don't kill people. Pit bulls do.".
No that's what you call bullshit. No other breed is misidentified more. Anything that looks even remotely similar to a pit is called a pit. Sometimes the dogs don't even look lit pits get called pits when reporters show up. Several people have put together slideshows where you pick the pit bull out. Google them and see how you do.

Aside from that Pits don't have mutant freakishly powerful jaws. Your hyperbole is ridiculous. Rotties bite just as hard as pits yet you aren't suggesting they should be banned.
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I adopted a lab retreiver mix 3 weeks ago when I asked what else it was they said they weren't sure. It looks like a pit bull and I really hope its how you raise them more then anything else he came from a high kill shelter he is only 14 weeks and so far so good but I can tell you when we play he is strong but he is very sweet. He is also very fearless I have a deck in that back of my house that has a 4 foot drop and I had him out there today and he leaped right off of it. I am a big guy so no matter how big he gets I will always be able to handle him but I just hope he stays good. I f anyone has any advice let me know.
It's a combination of things. If the dog is not skittish or scared of everything and you're not apush over, you'll be fine.
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Old 03-09-2013, 05:54 PM   #224
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we should require all dog owners to have liability insurance

the insurance could be priced based on actuary information

more dangerous dog, more expensive policy

dogs with zero or extremely low rates may be exempt (service dogs etc)
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