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Old 03-08-2013, 11:42 AM  
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How similiar is this years draft to 96, 97 and 2000?

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96
No 1st round QBs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_NFL_Draft


1 New York Jets Keyshawn Johnson Wide Receiver USC
2 Jacksonville Jaguars Kevin Hardy Linebacker Illinois
3 Arizona Cardinals Simeon Rice Defensive End Illinois
4 Baltimore Ravens Jonathan Ogden Tackle UCLA
5 New York Giants Cedric Jones Defensive End Oklahoma
6 St. Louis Rams Lawrence Phillips Running Back Nebraska
7 New England Patriots Terry Glenn Wide Receiver Ohio State
8 Carolina Panthers Tim Biakabutuka Running Back Michigan
9 Oakland Raiders Rickey Dudley Tight End Ohio State
10 Cincinnati Bengals Willie Anderson Tackle Auburn
11 New Orleans Saints Alex Molden Cornerback Oregon
12 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Regan Upshaw Defensive End California
13 Chicago Bears Walt Harris Cornerback Mississippi State
14 Houston Oilers Eddie George [3] Running Back Ohio State
15 Denver Broncos John Mobley Linebacker Kutztown
16 Minnesota Vikings Duane Clemons Defensive End California
17 Detroit Lions Reggie Brown Linebacker Texas A&M
18 St. Louis Rams Eddie Kennison Wide Receiver LSU
19 Indianapolis Colts Marvin Harrison Wide Receiver Syracuse
20 Miami Dolphins Daryl Gardener Defensive Tackle Baylor
21 Seattle Seahawks Pete Kendall Tackle Boston College
22 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Marcus Jones Defensive End North Carolina
23 Detroit Lions Jeff Hartings Guard Penn State
24 Buffalo Bills Eric Moulds Wide Receiver Mississippi State
25 Philadelphia Eagles Jermane Mayberry Tackle Texas A&M-Kingsville
26 Baltimore Ravens Ray Lewis Linebacker Miami
27 Green Bay Packers John Michels Tackle USC
28 Kansas City Chiefs Jerome Woods Free Safety Memphis
29 Pittsburgh Steelers Jamain Stephens Tackle North Carolina A&T
30 Washington Redskins (from Dallas Cowboys) Andre Johnson Tackle Penn State



97
First Qb not taken until 26th
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_NFL_Draft

1 St. Louis Rams (from New York Jets) Orlando Pace Offensive tackle Ohio State
2 Oakland Raiders Darrell Russell Defensive tackle USC
3 Seattle Seahawks (from Atlanta Falcons for 1997 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks) Shawn Springs Cornerback Ohio State
4 Baltimore Ravens Peter Boulware Linebacker Florida State
5 Detroit Lions Bryant Westbrook Cornerback Texas
6 Seattle Seahawks (from St. Louis Rams via New York Jets and Tampa Bay Buccaneers) Walter Jones Offensive tackle Florida State
7 New York Giants Ike Hilliard Wide receiver Florida
8 New York Jets(from Tampa Bay Buccaneers) James Farrior Linebacker Virginia
9 Arizona Cardinals Tommy Knight Cornerback Iowa
10 New Orleans Saints Chris Naeole Guard Colorado
11 Atlanta Falcons Michael Booker Cornerback Nebraska
12 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Warrick Dunn Running back Florida State
13 Kansas City Chiefs Tony Gonzalez Tight end California
14 Cincinnati Bengals Reinard Wilson Linebacker Florida State
15 Miami Dolphins Yatil Green Wide receiver Miami
16 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Reidel Anthony Wide receiver Florida
17 Washington Redskins Kenard Lang Defensive end Miami
18 Tennessee Oilers Kenny Holmes Defensive end Miami
19 Indianapolis Colts Tarik Glenn Offensive tackle California
20 Minnesota Vikings Dwayne Rudd Linebacker Alabama
21 Jacksonville Jaguars Renaldo Wynn Defensive tackle Notre Dame
22 Dallas Cowboys David LaFleur Tight end LSU
23 Buffalo Bills Antowain Smith Running back Houston
24 Pittsburgh Steelers Chad Scott Defensive back Maryland
25 Philadelphia Eagles Jon Harris Defensive end Virginia
26 San Francisco 49ers Jim Druckenmiller Quarterback Virginia Tech
27 Carolina Panthers Rae Carruth Wide receiver Colorado
28 Denver Broncos Trevor Pryce Defensive Tackle Clemson
29 New England Patriots Chris Canty Cornerback Kansas State
30 Green Bay Packers Ross Verba Offensive tackle Iowa


2000
First Qb not taken until 18th
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_NFL_Draft

1 Cleveland Browns Courtney Brown Defensive end Penn State
2 Washington Redskins (from New Orleans) LaVar Arrington Linebacker Penn State
3 Washington Redskins (from San Francisco) Chris Samuels Tackle Alabama
4 Cincinnati Bengals Peter Warrick Wide receiver Florida State
5 Baltimore Ravens (from Atlanta) Jamal Lewis Running back Tennessee
6 Philadelphia Eagles Corey Simon Defensive tackle Florida State
7 Arizona Cardinals Thomas Jones Running back Virginia
8 Pittsburgh Steelers Plaxico Burress Wide receiver Michigan State
9 Chicago Bears Brian Urlacher Linebacker New Mexico
10 Baltimore Ravens (from Denver) Travis Taylor Wide receiver Florida
11 New York Giants Ron Dayne Running back Wisconsin
12 New York Jets (from Carolina through Washington and San Francisco) Shaun Ellis Defensive end Tennessee
13 New York Jets (from San Diego through Tampa Bay) John Abraham Defensive end South Carolina
14 Green Bay Packers Bubba Franks Tight end Miami (Florida)
15 Denver Broncos (from Baltimore) Deltha O'Neal Cornerback California
16 San Francisco 49ers (from New England through New York Jets) Julian Peterson Linebacker Michigan State
17 Oakland Raiders Sebastian Janikowski Kicker Florida State
18 New York Jets Chad Pennington Quarterback Marshall
19 Seattle Seahawks (from Dallas) [2] Shaun Alexander Running back Alabama
20 Detroit Lions Stockar McDougle Tackle Oklahoma
21 Kansas City Chiefs Sylvester Morris Wide receiver Jackson State
22 Seattle Seahawks Chris McIntosh Tackle Wisconsin
23 Carolina Panthers (from Miami) Rashard Anderson Defensive back Jackson State
24 San Francisco 49ers (from Washington) Ahmed Plummer Cornerback Ohio State
25 Minnesota Vikings Chris Hovan Defensive tackle Boston College
26 Buffalo Bills Erik Flowers Defensive end Arizona State
27 New York Jets (from Tampa Bay) Anthony Becht Tight end West Virginia
28 Indianapolis Colts Rob Morris Linebacker BYU
29 Jacksonville Jaguars R. Jay Soward Wide receiver USC
30 Tennessee Titans Keith Bulluck Linebacker Syracuse
31 St. Louis Rams Trung Canidate Running back Arizona
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:58 AM   #16
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They say quantity and quality is better at the OL & DL well then get a playmaker early so you get higher value for him. If there is less playmakers to get and your a team in need of playmaker or QB best get one early. There should be OL & DL quality guys later in this draft.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:58 AM   #17
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Nein.

Completely wrong...
How so?
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:59 AM   #18
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They quantity and quality is better at the OL & DL well then get a playmaker early so you get higher value for him. If there is less playmakers to get and your a team in need of playmaker or QB best get one early. There should be OL & DL quality guys later in this draft.
And who are these Quality guys later in the draft?

There is barely a handful of guys at the top of the draft that are quality.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:59 AM   #19
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This will be the draft GM's are graded on.

There are so many players with risks, huge upsides, problems, retarded combine numbers, etc.

There is no clear anything outside the top 5 or so and even those guys are debated.

Here's where your GM earns his money...
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:00 PM   #20
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The Chiefs luck?

1st overall pick in the year sandwiched by Luck and Clowney.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:02 PM   #21
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3 Seattle Seahawks (from Atlanta Falcons for 1997 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th round picks) Shawn Springs Cornerback Ohio State

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Old 03-08-2013, 12:08 PM   #22
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And Atlanta didn't end up getting shit with those picks. Seattle also got Walter Jones that draft.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:10 PM   #23
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The Chiefs luck?

1st overall pick in the year sandwiched by Luck and Clowney.
Dorsey is not in love.

He'll trade down...
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If the G.M has to turn over every rock to find a quality player....that means it's weak class.

I just want to know who all of these depth players are outside of round 1 (and even that round is "eh").

I like the depth at the DB position....that's about it.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:13 PM   #25
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....?

If the G.M has to turn over every rock to find a quality player....that means it's weak class.

I just want to know who all of these depth players are outside of round 1 (and even that round is "eh").

I like the depth at the DB position....that's about it.
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Once you leave the top 10 it's a huge drop.

This isn't a top heavy draft but it's one where the second round starts in the bottom of 1 and ends at the bottom of 3.

This is exactly the type of draft where you want to have multiple picks...
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....?

If the G.M has to turn over every rock to find a quality player....that means it's weak class.

I just want to know who all of these depth players are outside of round 1 (and even that round is "eh").

I like the depth at the DB position....that's about it.
I like the depth at the WR position as well.
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And we don't have a second round pick.

Dorsey better hope to God that he can trade down.
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And we don't have a second round pick.

Dorsey better hope to God that he can trade down.
I think that's the plan.

There are a ton of edge rushers/4-3 D ends that will go in the first two rounds.

There are a ton of OT's that will go the first two rounds (and I don't think we've evaluated that as a huge position of need.)

We clearly don't appear ready to go QB early so that's a ton of talent falling to us...
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Next years draft will be much better. Great players like Jadevon Clowney, Marquise Lee and Teddy Bridgewater all deserve to go #1.

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Ok.....I'm probably going to open a can of worms.....but what has Bridgewater done to deserve to go #1?
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